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Old 09-27-2007, 08:53 AM   #1
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Troop withdrawl...

The democratic controlled congress has been pressing it fellow congresspeople to pass a resolution to have all the troops be withdrawn from Iraq by 2008....the next Presidetial elections.

Yet today I read that the leading democratic candidates conceeded that they don't think they can have the troops withdrawn by 2013...the end of the next term.

What does tht tell you? It tells me that these democratic candiates are not really concerned about what is going on in Iraq but would rather play politics with them. What really is pissing me off is that the media isn't making a big deal about the democrats flip flop...again.

And the majority of the American public but into this BS. Jeez California has a Socialist as a Governer hidden as a Republican. Sort of reminds me of Paris where a communist party member was ELECTED as mayor of that city prior to the one now.

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Troop withdrawal has been for political reasons for them from the beginning, I can't understand why people didn't see it. Like I always say, they only know how to blame and make oversized government. Never a solution from a democrat. Clinton wants to creat 9 new bureaucracies for her socialist health care plan, how much in taxes is that going to cost??? If you want someone from the government to pic your doctor, vote for her.
Take the troops out, we'll be back there within 5 years and it will be worse! Do you want your sons and daughters dying for that discision? In 4 years we've only lost what, about 3500 troops? Tragic none the less, I know first hand, but that would have been a half hour of fighting in WWII, or half a day of fighting in Viet-Nam. Write your senators (like I do daily) and make them give the commanders what they need to do the job and lets get this thing finished the American way, by kicking ass! Not turning aand running away.

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Had they succeeded in getting a troop withdrawal by 08, the failure and subsequent bloodbath would have been on Bush's watch so they could blame it all on him and the Depublicans.
Now that they see they cant do it, they have to start taking the war seriously or they'll be shown for the incompetent traitors they are.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:43 AM   #4
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Troop withdrawal has been for political reasons for them from the beginning, I can't understand why people didn't see it. Like I always say, they only know how to blame and make oversized government. Never a solution from a democrat. Clinton wants to creat 9 new bureaucracies for her socialist health care plan, how much in taxes is that going to cost??? If you want someone from the government to pic your doctor, vote for her.
Take the troops out, we'll be back there within 5 years and it will be worse! Do you want your sons and daughters dying for that discision? In 4 years we've only lost what, about 3500 troops? Tragic none the less, I know first hand, but that would have been a half hour of fighting in WWII, or half a day of fighting in Viet-Nam. Write your senators (like I do daily) and make them give the commanders what they need to do the job and lets get this thing finished the American way, by kicking ass! Not turning aand running away.
Well said. Besides, I'm looking through biased eyes, but war means job security for me. That being said, everyone, including the troops, wants a peaceful resolution to the conflict in the MiddleEast. It just won't happen overnight, or even in a decade. These people have been killing themselves over religion for thousands of years; that's not going to stop because America wants it to stop. You hit the nail on the head with your post and I wish more of the population was as enlightened as you.



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Well said. Besides, I'm looking through biased eyes, but war means job security for me. That being said, everyone, including the troops, wants a peaceful resolution to the conflict in the MiddleEast. It just won't happen overnight, or even in a decade. These people have been killing themselves over religion for thousands of years; that's not going to stop because America wants it to stop. You hit the nail on the head with your post and I wish more of the population was as enlightened as you.

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Thanks, but I wouldn't say I'm enlightened, I'm just pissed that these government peices if s#!+ think they are speaking for the american people and they are not! (and I mean both parties) Just their own agenda. I'm not a war monger but I just think we've been fighting everyone elses wars for so long, what makes this one so different?? I don't want to be there either but I go because I'm ordered, like you and everyone else. And I'll keep going until we're done or I'm dead, don't matter to me. They pick and choose who they want to fight and when they don't like the choice, it's all the presidents fault, or rhe Sec Def's fault. They voted for it. Look at the genocide in Africa, truly defenseless people are dying there and we're doing nothing but donating money based on tv commercials. "No oil in Africa, sorry, wont help me get votes." "Someone lied to me about WMD's and we're not getting the oil from Iraq free, the president is to blame, sorry. I'll pull us out if you'll vote for me." Sorry for rambling, I'll shut up now. I need to get deployed again, I need to vent.
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I have no issues with our boys being over there... but for God's sake pull them off of the policing and send them a'hunting. Bin Laden and his crew are still over there.
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I have no issues with our boys being over there... but for God's sake pull them off of the policing and send them a'hunting. Bin Laden and his crew are still over there.
And this is one of the few real reasons things are progressing so slow. Remove the embedded media, Soften rules of engagement (soldiers shouldn't have to be scared of prosecution when they go outside the wire), and go where they are at. If Iranians are supplying them, chase the insurgents all the way back to the border. Kill the Iranians too. There is no room for political correctness on the battlefield. Line some of these up along the border about 100 yards apart with HE and nukes, . They'll stay away...or become martyrs.
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...or become martyrs...LMAO!!! NICE!
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Well said kp4kpg, I think it breaks down like this
to the democrats, the war is political issue
to the republicans, the war is an issue of national security and providing for the continued safety and prosperity of our country.
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I have no issues with our boys being over there... but for God's sake pull them off of the policing and send them a'hunting. Bin Laden and his crew are still over there.

POLICING=nothing gets done

HUNTING=we clean the place up one insurgent at a time and my girl gets to warm her barrel!
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Well said kp4kpg, I think it breaks down like this
to the democrats, the war is political issue
to the republicans, the war is an issue of national security and providing for the continued safety and prosperity of our country.
thats not right either. also, its not a war. if it were, id be getting paid more!

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