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Old 01-13-2013, 06:59 PM   #31
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Guys take the advice of a 64 year old that has been lifting all of my life. Do not put on to much weight. I am a pretty big guy to start with. In my mid 40's I went on a weight lifting tear and went from about 240 to 275. Mostly upper body. I still workout 3 to 4 days per week with 30 minutes of intensive cardio and then 40 to 45 minutes of moderate lifting. I am too big. I am having back and knee issues and the weight is very hard to drop because it is all muscle mass. My doctors want me to lose weight but even though I have cut way back on calories it is coming off slow.

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Guys take the advice of a 64 year old that has been lifting all of my life. Do not put on to much weight. I am a pretty big guy to start with. In my mid 40's I went on a weight lifting tear and went from about 240 to 275. Mostly upper body. I still workout 3 to 4 days per week with 30 minutes of intensive cardio and then 40 to 45 minutes of moderate lifting. I am too big. I am having back and knee issues and the weight is very hard to drop because it is all muscle mass. My doctors want me to lose weight but even though I have cut way back on calories it is coming off slow.
I'm 210lbs. I'm happy with that weight but just want to get cut and add strength. I go to the gym 4-5 times a week with a mixture of cardio and weights.

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A lot of good info in the thread already!

I've always had to work out and stay in shape (somewhat) for my job. Was 5'10", 165 all through my Army days. I'm at 180 now. I've done the weights and cardio, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (great cardio) and I've done a couple cycles of P90X.

My biggest issue is nutrition. I'm not good at maintaining it and there's a lot of food I just won't eat. Ive tried some of the pre-work out supplements, protein powders and other crap. I stopped because its too expensive and it makes you too dependent on it.

I just started another cycle of P90X with the goal of leaning out to 170. I'm also going to try to start into Jiu Jitsu again just because I miss it.
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I'm 210lbs. I'm happy with that weight but just want to get cut and add strength. I go to the gym 4-5 times a week with a mixture of cardio and weights.
I lift about 50% or less of my max and do three sets of 15 reps. I am keeping it all form sagging. My current goals are modest. Keep it from sagging and be able to walk a river all day trout fishing.
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A lot of good info in the thread already!

I've always had to work out and stay in shape (somewhat) for my job. Was 5'10", 165 all through my Army days. I'm at 180 now. I've done the weights and cardio, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (great cardio) and I've done a couple cycles of P90X.

My biggest issue is nutrition. I'm not good at maintaining it and there's a lot of food I just won't eat. Ive tried some of the pre-work out supplements, protein powders and other crap. I stopped because its too expensive and it makes you too dependent on it.

I just started another cycle of P90X with the goal of leaning out to 170. I'm also going to try to start into Jiu Jitsu again just because I miss it.
I heard about the p90x but never checked into what it is all about.
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It's one of those work out programs you see on late night TV. I got it from a family member that didn't want it.

It takes weights, cardio, yoga and other exercises and combines everything based on the day. It's really tough at first because you work a lot of muscles you don't normally, but it works. The key is following the nutrition along with the program.
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It's one of those work out programs you see on late night TV. I got it from a family member that didn't want it.

It takes weights, cardio, yoga and other exercises and combines everything based on the day. It's really tough at first because you work a lot of muscles you don't normally, but it works. The key is following the nutrition along with the program.
Yeah you lost me at nutrition :rolf: actually I don't feel I eat that unhealthy.
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Guys take the advice of a 64 year old that has been lifting all of my life. Do not put on to much weight. I am a pretty big guy to start with. In my mid 40's I went on a weight lifting tear and went from about 240 to 275. Mostly upper body. I still workout 3 to 4 days per week with 30 minutes of intensive cardio and then 40 to 45 minutes of moderate lifting. I am too big. I am having back and knee issues and the weight is very hard to drop because it is all muscle mass. My doctors want me to lose weight but even though I have cut way back on calories it is coming off slow.
Thank's for sharing this. Posts like this are one of the reasons I started this thread to get more information on the sport itself. I have had a dislocated knee cap, broken wrist and still have a torn meniscus. These past injuries are one of the reasons I decided to slow down with the weight gaining. I'd rather be healthy at 200lbs and pretty big, than a monster at 235 but sore knees and back all the time.
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A lot of good info in the thread already!

I've always had to work out and stay in shape (somewhat) for my job. Was 5'10", 165 all through my Army days. I'm at 180 now. I've done the weights and cardio, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (great cardio) and I've done a couple cycles of P90X.

My biggest issue is nutrition. I'm not good at maintaining it and there's a lot of food I just won't eat. Ive tried some of the pre-work out supplements, protein powders and other crap. I stopped because its too expensive and it makes you too dependent on it.

I just started another cycle of P90X with the goal of leaning out to 170. I'm also going to try to start into Jiu Jitsu again just because I miss it.
Thanks I'm glad this thread is holding up I was a little worried it was too "off topic" for the off topic section!
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I've met alot of guys in the gym who swore they couldn't gain weight, but when we break down their diet we find they're not eating near as many calories as they think they are...
Correct. No such thing as hard-gainers, only under-eaters
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Thanks I'm glad this thread is holding up I was a little worried it was too "off topic" for the off topic section!
No problem, thanks for starting it

No such thing as too off topic in this section...
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No problem, thanks for starting it

No such thing as too off topic in this section...
Nope that's true enough. Hope to use this in the future to help me with my goals.
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Greatest ab workout

Take those arm slings and hang them from a pull up box/ stand/ whatever. Do suspended leg raisers and at the top do a twist to the side. Try to control your way back down and limit the sway as much as possible (I recommend having a spotter behind you for this to stop the momentum). You're abs, especially your obliques, will feel Like mush for days
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So my weight routine usually goes like this. I'll do a night on back and shoulders, a night on legs, a night on arms(triceps, biceps and forearms) and my abs I'll do throughout these nights. Is this a good break up of muscle groups? Or should I be doing it differently?
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So my weight routine usually goes like this. I'll do a night on back and shoulders, a night on legs, a night on arms(triceps, biceps and forearms) and my abs I'll do throughout these nights. Is this a good break up of muscle groups? Or should I be doing it differently?
Everyone is different my friend. You'll find out the more you lift that what works for one guy won't work for you. Personally I have to split my muscle groups up completely to see results. Other guys like a push/ pull split. For example you could do day 1) legs day 2) back and biceps day 3) chest and triceps day 4) shoulders.

It all depends what you want and how often you can workout. For me I do 1) chest 2) back 3) legs 4) day off 5) shoulders 6) arms 7) day off

For some guys that wouldn't work but for me it has always worked and keeps me gaining muscle.
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Guys, take heed to khende's advice. If you're skinny and young, don't worry - it will come. You'll then reach a point where you're trying to lose instead of gain.

A balanced diet is essential. I eat about six small meals a day and take 0 supplements. Fish, beans, poultry, lean red meat(I actually don't eat a lot of red meat) and plenty of veggies. Stay hydrated as well and stay away from those energy drinks. My brother died of a heart attack almost 6 years ago at 45 years old. He loved the Red Bull drinks and had extreme stress from work. Balance your life. I can't emphasize enough the negative health impacts of stress. Get plenty of rest too. Recovery and diet, IMO, are more important than the workout for overall health.
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Balance your life. I can't emphasize enough the negative health impacts of stress. Get plenty of rest too. Recovery and diet, IMO, are more important than the workout for overall health.
X2. I was under a ton of stress my last year in the Navy. If it wasn't for the back to back deployments and trying to juggle a new family I would have stayed in. Most of the guys I worked with are in their mid 30's and could pass for 50 easily. They were overweight, hated their wives, and had horrible attitudes. Finding your peaceful niche as well as a healthy diet and workout routine make light of pretty much anything. For me it's my Jeep (surprise surprise).
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Aside from pre workouts and music does anyone have some motivators on dreary days? Anything psyc related. Taking myself to the gym this evening was like walking to the guillotine. Did NOT want to go. Did chest on a bench next to the window looking at grey skies and my Jeep slowly become encrusted with ice didn't help. I was actually putting up 20 lbs less than normal.
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aside from pre workouts and music does anyone have some motivators on dreary days? Anything psyc related. Taking myself to the gym this evening was like walking to the guillotine. Did not want to go. Did chest on a bench next to the window looking at grey skies and my jeep slowly become encrusted with ice didn't help. I was actually putting up 20 lbs less than normal.
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X2. I was under a ton of stress my last year in the Navy. If it wasn't for the back to back deployments and trying to juggle a new family I would have stayed in. Most of the guys I worked with are in their mid 30's and could pass for 50 easily. They were overweight, hated their wives, and had horrible attitudes. Finding your peaceful niche as well as a healthy diet and workout routine make light of pretty much anything. For me it's my Jeep (surprise surprise).
I know exactly what you mean. I had never experienced the amount of stress that hit me when I got out of the Army. Gained about 20lbs and miserable. I've always looked at my vehicle as a stress reliever but the Jeep is the first real experience I've had. It's like a brotherhood, hobby and transportation all in one!
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Aside from pre workouts and music does anyone have some motivators on dreary days? Anything psyc related. Taking myself to the gym this evening was like walking to the guillotine. Did NOT want to go. Did chest on a bench next to the window looking at grey skies and my Jeep slowly become encrusted with ice didn't help. I was actually putting up 20 lbs less than normal.
Getting mad. Before every workout I look at myself in the mirror and tell myself this is t good enough. Get bigger, train harder. Never be satisfied with how you look or with your weight your pushing up.
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Getting mad. Before every workout I look at myself in the mirror and tell myself this is t good enough. Get bigger, train harder. Never be satisfied with how you look or with your weight your pushing up.
Haha maybe that's my problem. I'm actually a pretty happy person. I'll look in the mirror and say "well the traps are coming along nicely and the definition is coming back in my lower abs and my girlfriend still likes to see me naked I think...Alright lets go do chest!!"
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I know exactly what you mean. I had never experienced the amount of stress that hit me when I got out of the Army. Gained about 20lbs and miserable. I've always looked at my vehicle as a stress reliever but the Jeep is the first real experience I've had. It's like a brotherhood, hobby and transportation all in one!
Reliever/inducer. I've never met anyone with a different hobby that would bleed, get a chemical in their eyes, get mad, and at the end of the task feel good about what they've done.

Automotive enthusiasts are a strange breed.
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Haha maybe that's my problem. I'm actually a pretty happy person. I'll look in the mirror and say "well the traps are coming along nicely and the definition is coming back in my lower abs and my girlfriend still likes to see me naked I think...Alright lets go do chest!!"
Lmaooo well obviously you should be PROUD of your gains! None of my work out shirts have sleeves on them. The key is to be always want that extra 5 pounds, that taller bicep peak, those more cut up abs. Ambition gets people very far
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I'm actually stoked about my gains when others notice. That recognition feels great. Right now I'm just going into a cutting routine. Too much Thanksgiving/Christmas food and "welcome home let me buy you a beer" people.
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I'm actually stoked about my gains when others notice. That recognition feels great. Right now I'm just going into a cutting routine. Too much Thanksgiving/Christmas food and "welcome home let me buy you a beer" people.
I was with my girl the other night in my jeep (if you know what I mean ) when she started to take my shirt off and say "you look better without it." Man, there are few moments Better than that in life
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One of the things that younger weight lifters ingnore but us old guys have to do is rest. Your bodies needs a chance to heal and rejuvenate after a period of intensive workouts. Because I am retired I work out every other day during the week and take a 30 mile or so bike ride on the days I am not in the gym. I rest on the weekends. I motivate myself by thinking the longer I do this the longer I can remain active and enjoy the beautiful places this country has to offer. On foot or by Jeep.
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I'm just trying to keep in shape so I can outrun the slow people when the Zombies come.
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Advice to peeps looking for a certain body type:
Find people who have that body type and emulate their training. If you want to look like a fighter, train like a fighter. Olympic sprinter? Train like a sprinter. Etc, etc. Shift your mind set away from Muscle&Fiction magazine articles, they're garbage for people who aren't on massive amounts of anabolics. Here's a money-back guarantee: if you can squat 400lbs raw, bench 275, deadlift 450, bust out 20 pull-ups, and run a 20 minute 5k, you're going to like the way you look and feel.

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