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Old 02-04-2013, 09:08 AM   #181
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I must be doing somethin right.....saw some folks I hadn't seen in a while, last night. They noticed a change.

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I must be doing somethin right.....saw some folks I hadn't seen in a while, last night. They noticed a change.
Don't you love that?

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Made me wor extra hard, this mornin....
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I must be doing somethin right.....saw some folks I hadn't seen in a while, last night. They noticed a change.
That is a cool feeling
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There are definately alot of idiotic vids on YouTube of people attempting to crossfit. The crossfit gym I go to is completely nazi about form, which makes me wonder what the real % of bad-form crossfitters is.... Thruthfully, I see more gym rats doing stupid crap at our local community gym than I do at xfit, especially guys lifting more weight than they can safely handle. Want to see something that'll really make you cringe? Watch deadlifting videos on YouTube
You're one of the lucky ones. I used to go to a crossfit gym and they were very strict about form, at first. Slowly but surely that changed as the crowd grew larger. Not a lot of injuries but form did suffer quite a bit.

You are absolutely right though, it comes down to the individual. Even at an unsupervised crossfit gym you can get the proper help and maintain proper form. I pity the fools who do not.
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There are definately alot of idiotic vids on YouTube of people attempting to crossfit. The crossfit gym I go to is completely nazi about form, which makes me wonder what the real % of bad-form crossfitters is.... Thruthfully, I see more gym rats doing stupid crap at our local community gym than I do at xfit, especially guys lifting more weight than they can safely handle. Want to see something that'll really make you cringe? Watch deadlifting videos on YouTube
Like I said, it's not everyone. Some people. I hate blanket statements and generalizations. I personally know a lot of people who just don't understand the fundamentals. I see this already with my experience in PT, in gyms most of my life, and as an ex phys minor. Because crossfit has become such a fad, there are so many people coming in and going straight into the stuff without learning what they are doing. There are definitely people who only know what they are doing in any gym. I think it's just the way in which crossfit works as in the workout layouts that cause the issues. Lots of reps with bad form with too much weight is the main issue I see.


Elclipo is kind of touching on what I meant. Yes you can get help with form but someone's you end up with guys who think they know but they don't.
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This summer I was benching 315 and dead lifting 450. I had some health issues this year so I'm just getting back into it and today I benched 285...on the path back to 3 plates.
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Im a college football player. Don't really enjoy lifting because I have to do the lifts the coaches give us instead of my own plan. Can wait to be done next year and able to drop this Offensive line weight! Im 6'3 and weigh 275. I plan to drop about 50 pounds after my senior season next year.
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Im a college football player. Don't really enjoy lifting because I have to do the lifts the coaches give us instead of my own plan. Can wait to be done next year and able to drop this Offensive line weight! Im 6'3 and weigh 275. I plan to drop about 50 pounds after my senior season next year.
I didn't play college ball, but I feel your pain! People don't realize how hard you have to work and eat to carry that much excess muscle. I'm 6' and got up to about 245lbs. I got so burned out on eating every 3-4 hrs that even thinking of food would make me gag a little bit.
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I didn't play college ball, but I feel your pain! People don't realize how hard you have to work and eat to carry that much excess muscle. I'm 6' and got up to about 245lbs. I got so burned out on eating every 3-4 hrs that even thinking of food would make me gag a little bit.

I think he is talking fat weight coaches make you keep on. It's sad but true about a lot of college and pro linemen, they make them eat.
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I wouldnt say Im fat. I dont know my % body fat but I wouldnt say Fat lol. I do have a little Gut but what lineman doesnt haha. In the process of the weigh loss I may lose muscle mass but I am not worried about that. I will never need all this muscle in a normal life haha
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I wouldnt say Im fat. I dont know my % body fat but I wouldnt say Fat lol. I do have a little Gut but what lineman doesnt haha. In the process of the weigh loss I may lose muscle mass but I am not worried about that. I will never need all this muscle in a normal life haha
I wasn't implying that you were fat but that as a linemen coaches like you to have some extra weight. They expect it. Your not supposed to be cut like a WR and you need the weight for the abuse you take.

Haha I don't really need my strength or size either but it's nice to have.
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6th week p90x.53 yrs. 270lbs.6ft.Yup to much fat.In and out of gym's for yrs.Never lifted steady year to year.Smoked 2 packs per.day till 11/2012 even when lifting.No way smokers do p90.Every session is a complete sweat and breath WORKOUT!Just healed up 2 hernia's past year trying to be a hero.The gym sucks lately it's a hangout and talk scene.Screw that.So bought some bowflex 90's dumbells,bench,chin-up bar.Workout for now at home.The winter in and out of a cold car not good.Do a little coffee before workout.Up at 4:30 am,commute,work,sit in traffic.Now try to find energy for a good work out?Check out p90x's ab workout on u-tube.Dead in 2 minutes.Don't get bored just PRESS PLAY!
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:57 PM   #194
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6th week p90x.53 yrs. 270lbs.6ft.Yup to much fat.In and out of gym's for yrs.Never lifted steady year to year.Smoked 2 packs per.day till 11/2012 even when lifting.No way smokers do p90.Every session is a complete sweat and breath WORKOUT!Just healed up 2 hernia's past year trying to be a hero.The gym sucks lately it's a hangout and talk scene.Screw that.So bought some bowflex 90's dumbells,bench,chin-up bar.Workout for now at home.The winter in and out of a cold car not good.Do a little coffee before workout.Up at 4:30 am,commute,work,sit in traffic.Now try to find energy for a good work out?Check out p90x's ab workout on u-tube.Dead in 2 minutes.Don't get bored just PRESS PLAY!
Bring it!

Did two rounds of p90x a couple years ago. It will definitely get you in shape.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:20 PM   #195
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Bring it!

Did two rounds of p90x a couple years ago. It will definitely get you in shape.
YES BRING IT! Still going to mix the gym back into a routine.Wasn't losing fat in the gym so tried this INTENSE cardio and weight training routine to shock this beat up,fat body of mine.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:36 PM   #196
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I'm 44, 5' 11" 168. Like most of you I've been in the gyms for many years and have maintained an even weight, but now that I'm past 40 everything is different. I have 2 lumbar discs that are beginning to break down and have constant ache back there. I just had them injected with my own blood product in October and was feeling great until last week when I bent over to take off a shoe and one disc popped-instant local pain. #$(*% I'll probably get an MRI in a few months to see what's up again even though that acute pain lasted just several days vs. weeks usually.

Anyhow back to the gym subject, the biggest and best thing that I've done to my routine recently is to lighten the weight that I'm lifting. It's awesome. I have to admit that my form has gotten even better and my joints don't hurt nearly as much as they used to. Low weight high reps for me. There are some recent studies that say that low weight high rep is as effective as high weight low rep routines and that's where the light bulb turned on. So I tried it, and now I believe it.

My goal is to stay in shape, not get huge or bulk up. Ideally I'd like to be 175 ish and ripped but I am not in any hurry to get there. Every day that I get to the gym is a great stress reliever and I leave with an endorphin buzz. Even while during the last two years while coping with my then dying buddy, the gym was what helped me keep my sanity. And even right after he died when the grief was still fresh, it just really helped my mental state.

My diet is normal. I don't eat fast food, I drink coffee and water, and some wine or booze at night, no coke/pepsi ever. The freezer is stocked with locally raised natural pork and grass fed beef. And I dont do any supplements anymore either. All I do is drink milk before and after the gym. That's it..

Now if I can only get that cardio endorphin tunnel vision....

But i always say- what ever works for ya...
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There are some recent studies that say that low weight high rep is as effective as high weight low rep routines...
As effective for what?
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I always was under the impression that high weight low reps made the muscles larger, while low weight high reps toned them. Anyways, team maxed out squat this morning and I lifted 455. Bench max out tomorrow!
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I always was under the impression that high weight low reps made the muscles larger, while low weight high reps toned them. Anyways, team maxed out squat this morning and I lifted 455. Bench max out tomorrow!
Sorta of. Anything less than triples is all power and size basically and above say 15-20 is toning. But toning is just losing fat and having muscle if you think about it. Exercise doesn't burn fat at a specific site so there is no way to tone a specific muscle other than to increase mass. So which method is the most effective mass builder? It differs by muscle fiber type, the exercise, and tons of other factors. Low reps gets more response because when your doing high reps a lot of guys don't push as far as they really can, and instead of fatiguing muscles end up stopping due to other factors.

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As effective for what?
Ooops..what I meant to say was that low weight high rep routine is as effective as the accepted high weight low rep routine. I'll blame that on the pain meds. Studys say both are effective at building muscle mass. I need to search for that article again.
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Ooops..what I meant to say was that low weight high rep routine is as effective as the accepted high weight low rep routine. I'll blame that on the pain meds. Studys say both are effective at building muscle mass. I need to search for that article again.
It's true, up to a certain extent. And based on exercise, muscle, type of fiber, type of exercise (compound, isolation etc).
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Training is goal specific. High reps, low reps, etc should be determined by your goals. Most people work out without a plan or any specific goals, and spend years not accomplishing anything because of it.
The problem with articles like the above is that they don't address the issue of why someone is working out. Not to mention, without links to a specific study or studies its all just someone's opinion anyway.
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Starting my nephew on a program this afternoon, I'm excited to watch him progress. We're going to start with 4-5 months of straight strength work with lots of calories, then switch over to a strength/conditioning hybrid when he hits some certain benchmark numbers. Today we'll pretty much just test his maxes, or near maxes, and he gets to hear my speech about form, technique, form, technique...
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A good focus on form and technique is needed. Its surprising how many college athletes have poor lifting form. I would rather have solid technique and lift a little less than poor technique and lifting a little more.
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A good focus on form and technique is needed. Its surprising how many college athletes have poor lifting form. I would rather have solid technique and lift a little less than poor technique and lifting a little more.
In the long run you'll life more with good form anyways. So yes. This is exactly right.
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Met Mr. Canada 2011 Mike Johnson a few months back and up and coming bodybuilder Antoine Vaillant. Thats me in the grey nike shirt shaking Mikes hand and my body shaking Antoines. Mike was a super nice guy and helped us out alot during this seminar. He was open about everything and I mean everything to do with bodybuilding and lifting. Antoine was a nice guy too but you could tell he was the young cocky type and Mike was more mature and just happy to help young guys out.
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Just back in after a long break. I love the soreness from the first few days.
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So my 18 yr old nephew maxed at 115lb back squat, terrible form and no muscle control. I'm betting that he can add 200lbs to that number and squat 3 plates within 6-8 months, given proper instruction and dedication. He DL'd 155 for a double, and benched 95lbs. It's going to be fun training someone so raw and watching those numbers go up every week!

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