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Old 02-15-2013, 10:07 PM   #211
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You best get him lifting, he has some major progress to make! hahaha. ANYONE can weight lift and get stronger.

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Old 02-16-2013, 09:07 AM   #212
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You best get him lifting, he has some major progress to make! hahaha. ANYONE can weight lift and get stronger.
Ha! This one will get some numbers up fast. He's a farm kid, chops wood, carries heavy bags, etc. He'll be able to double his numbers without adding a bit of muscle simply by his body learning how to lift. I started him well below his maxes, adding weight every week. By the time the weight actually begins to challenge him he'll have a month or more refining his technique.

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Ha! This one will get some numbers up fast. He's a farm kid, chops wood, carries heavy bags, etc. He'll be able to double his numbers without adding a bit of muscle simply by his body learning how to lift. I started him well below his maxes, adding weight every week. By the time the weight actually begins to challenge him he'll have a month or more refining his technique.
Sounds good to me. A month of learning good form will have a lifelong impact.
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Anyone know a good website/magazine to get healthy recipes from??
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Anyone know a good website/magazine to get healthy recipes from??
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:59 PM   #216
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Starting 5-3-1 now that my powerlifting cycle is over. Combo of the triumvirate and big but boring. Which your not supposed to change up the program but I'm a rebel.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:56 PM   #217
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100 grams of carbs is plenty fine. I once was given the terrible information of going carb free and all protein. I was so skinny lost strength and had no energy. I highly recommend sweet potatoes, veggies, quinoa, whole wheat rice, fruit etc. for your carbs. Stay away from white breads and sugars.
I wouldn't say terrible info. The problem w low-ultra low carb diets(Atkins) is they don't differentiate on the type of fats. Most using it will more than likely eat ungodly amts of sat fats. If one would concentrate on mono and poly-un sat fat they'd be better off health wise. The terrible part of the info that was relayed to you was the importance of a carb-up. This will reset your hormones and your body will super compensate the carbs and store glycogen to be used for your nxt bout of low carb, while still burning fat for fuel. The carb up can't last too long or you run the risk of going back to burning carbs as your main energy source
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:07 PM   #218
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Lotta good info going on in here, like many here I am old school in thinking and methods. Wanna up your bench?....squat more. Wanna put more mass on your arms?....squat more(r.i.p. Jesse Marunde). Use compound movts and make it heavy, it is a relevant term. Personally I don't bench, use overhead but will use incline on occasion. All about functional strength. Pick it up..carry it, throw it, load it, set it down and do it again.
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Anyone know a good website/magazine to get healthy recipes from??
I live off of trader joes. Sirloin steak and boneless, skinless chicken tenders.

One recipe i did that came out delicious was chicken marinated in chopped onions, garlic powder, chili sauce, some chopped ginger, salt, pepper, and a bit of honey. Cooked it on my george foreman grill and DAMN it was tasty
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Hey guys, got a question for the jeepers who work out regularly. Ok, so Im 19 yrs old, have a full time, and then some, job working in the construction field so im active all day. I was never skinny or over weight in high school, but from when i graduated 2 years ago, i put on a few pounds, nothing major, but mainly just caused by a poor diet. I recently started the insanity workout, which i like a lot cause i dont have to leave the house after a 10-12hr day to go to the gym. My question is what supplements and diet would you recommended, if any at all.


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Hey guys, got a question for the jeepers who work out regularly. Ok, so Im 19 yrs old, have a full time, and then some, job working in the construction field so im active all day. I was never skinny or over weight in high school, but from when i graduated 2 years ago, i put on a few pounds, nothing major, but mainly just caused by a poor diet. I recently started the insanity workout, which i like a lot cause i dont have to leave the house after a 10-12hr day to go to the gym. My question is what supplements and diet would you recommended, if any at all.

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High protein the first month and then up the carbs the second month. And of course a healthy dose of fruits and vegetables the entire time.

The extra protein will help burn fat and the extra carbs will give you the energy you need to complete a high intensity workout like Insanity.

Some proteins are chicken, fish, and tuna. Some carbs are whole wheat bread, beans, and oatmeal. Make sure you're eating complex carbs.

And chocolate milk is an excellent recovery drink.
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High protein the first month and then up the carbs the second month. And of course a healthy dose of fruits and vegetables the entire time.

The extra protein will help burn fat and the extra carbs will give you the energy you need to complete a high intensity workout like Insanity.

Some proteins are chicken, fish, and tuna. Some carbs are whole wheat bread, beans, and oatmeal. Make sure you're eating complex carbs.

And chocolate milk is an excellent recovery drink.
Thanks for the input. Should i stay away from stuff like protein powders? Or creatine? Or if you recommend any of the 2, when and how regularly should i take them?
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Thanks for the input. Should i stay away from stuff like protein powders? Or creatine? Or if you recommend any of the 2, when and how regularly should i take them?
If possible, you want your nutrients to come from food. In other words, if you can get all of your protein from chicken and fish and milk then there's no need for the shakes. If you cannot get it all from food, then supplement it with protein shakes. How much or how often will depend on your total diet. However, in my experience I use shakes as a pre workout meal since it can give you some of that energy maggard mentioned.
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If possible, you want your nutrients to come from food. In other words, if you can get all of your protein from chicken and fish and milk then there's no need for the shakes. If you cannot get it all from food, then supplement it with protein shakes. How much or how often will depend on your total diet. However, in my experience I use shakes as a pre workout meal since it can give you some of that energy maggard mentioned.
I agree that you should try to get what you need from food and I typically stay away from supplements. If you are a hard core body builder or have fitness goals other than just staying in shape then maybe you need supplements.

I have taken both creatine and protein shakes but didn't really get results that justified the cost. This is only my experience and I'm sure others will see it differently.
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^^^this. If you get a steady supply of protein throughout the day then the need for a protein supplement isn't necessary. As far as creatine goes, you can get enuf from a decent dose of red meat per day. Of course the more intense your training the more your needs will change. Personally I use hydro whey or isolate and a huge dose of aminos post w/o for the insulin spike bc I don't consume carbs through the week(only veggies).
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Get protein and quality carbs and good fat from sound sources in macros based on your body type and goals. I would suggest trying 40/40/20 protein carb fat to start. Then adjust your total caloric intake by a small amount each week until you are losing some weight slowly. 2500 calories is the equivalent of one pound. So if you can burn 250 calories a day from your body and get the rest of your energy fro food you will lose a pound every 10 days. Slow and steady is the way to go. You will lose more when you start but by the sounds of things your not overweight. You want to figure something like this. Your body burns around 1500 calories just by being alive, give or take. Between your construction work and insanity you may burn anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand over the day. So 1500+1000=2500 is what you need a day. You eat 2250 and you lose weight. If the nutrients are quality and you get your fruits and Veges then your gona gain muscle at the same time.

Creatine and protein are great tools in the hand of an experienced lifter. There is no reason you need them if you are just starting, especially with something like insanity. Those types of supplements are more for extremely muscle hyper trophy like you see in weight lifting. The more you life the more beneficial they are. I wouldn't worry about them for now but they can definitely be considered as your training progresses.
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The advice given will work, no doubt. But if you just want to do it the easiest way possible, simply don't eat processed food. None. Ever. Eat vegetables, meat, fruit, nuts and berries. Other than convenience, there is no reason to eat anything else. Granted, I don't always take my own advice, but when I want to lean out that's the way I do it .
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I guess it depends on your goals. Im in my bulk season right now and to build muscle size you need CARBS. Protein helps repair muscle and muscle strength, but if you want size you gotta pack up on the carbs and eat
The need for carbs for size and strength isnt necessary by any means. I have put on 35 lbs the last yr and half going low carb thru the week w a weekly carb up on weekends. I do not train on weekends. I use the carbs to reset hormones and store glyco. Yes carbs play a part in size and strength but not necessary as I will skip weekly carbs and go low for up to 2 wks at a time no prob. My nutrition is a lil more complex than just low carb
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Size is dependent on ur eats, carbs, protein, fat. Using size as a general statement, bigger size-bigger eats. Smaller size-smaller eats
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:04 PM   #233
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Nothing just read the last page and there is a lot of what we call "bro science" in here. Which I expect I mean this is a jeep forum. Nothing at you in particular. I just hate when people try to sum up nutrition or dieting or training methods into a paragraph and one particular rule when that is not the case. It's like saying there is only one way to fix size X tires on a jeep... without saying what type of jeep it is, or what the purpose of the rig is, etc. It just isn't an effective explanation. It also doesn't matter what you do as far as dieting, because if you are eating excess calories your gona gain weight, and if you eat under your maintenance, you are going to lose weight. Yes there is some leiway but your changing body comp in some way shape or form. And yes you can gain or lose weight doing X Y and or Z but there is always an optimal way for a person to accomplish a goal, but no general way to prescribe what that is.
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Nah, I gotcha which is why I kinda paraphrased everything in laymens terms. In my beginning days, most like everyone everything in the mags was gospel. New and breakthrough meant just that. Now everything I read has a why or how thought to it. Not one thing works for everyone. I have "used" just bout every supp at one point and tried the gimmick exercises in the mags. Came to my senses and use bare min supps and a handful of exercises. So I feel ya on the bro science, I deal with it alot at gym and work
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For the most part most people just wanna lose weight(read weight, not fat mass) and don't care how just want scale number lower. I've found for these people a simple eat less satisfies them. If they ask for more in depth info then I'll oblige them. Or I get the ones that ask on nutrition or exercise and then tell me that won't work.
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Nah, I gotcha which is why I kinda paraphrased everything in laymens terms. In my beginning days, most like everyone everything in the mags was gospel. New and breakthrough meant just that. Now everything I read has a why or how thought to it. Not one thing works for everyone. I have "used" just bout every supp at one point and tried the gimmick exercises in the mags. Came to my senses and use bare min supps and a handful of exercises. So I feel ya on the bro science, I deal with it alot at gym and work
It's just funny hahahaha. You gota teach what ya can and forget the rest.
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Figured i'd post up since i just saw this...

the two pics i'm going to post are a before and after pic...the after pic was taken just 12 weeks after i first started getting back at it. after about 24 weeks back at it i decided to stop for a bit...which turned into 5 months...and am now just 4 weeks back at it but i'm basically just posting these to show how fast you can get results...

Dont be too harsh on the before pic...i was in bad shape and kinda let myself go lol



And this was 12 weeks later...i'm 163 lbs in the pic and can give max's with most exercises if requested (5 days on 2 days off)



I'm pretty much back at my 12 week picture since i was in good shape when i stopped but have about a pound to lose around the stomach area and then just going to tone up and maintain
I'm currently stronger than i was in the pic above but just not as cut which is what i'm going for now.
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You guys all quit working out or something?!

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