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Old 02-27-2008, 07:57 AM   #1
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Why I do what I do...

After a few hours of following the 33" tire and up with locker gang; I knew I was going to have something bent, broken, or smashed. I dragged over more rocks I couldn't see (water fording) and banged off of other rocks (under water... couldn't see 'em) than I would have ever thought I could get away with. With metal popping and grinding I was sweating bullets as I beat the hell out of my daily driver following these much larger and more built rigs, worrying about how the hell I was going to get home all with a stupid ass grin on my face. I must have looked like a mad man to my poor wife. Well, after all that and driving home Sunday night still worried that something must be wrong under there I crawled under for a look see Monday morning.... nothing.

I didn't notice anything that looked (at first glance) to be bent, broken, or smashed.

Everytime I go out in this damn thing I gain more respect for what everyone does. It has to be the rig because it damn sure ain't the operator.

Hell of a time... I had to share.

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Old 02-27-2008, 10:50 AM   #2
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good stuff right there bud.

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Old 02-27-2008, 10:54 AM   #3
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I failed to mention... I'm on 31s, no locker, 2.5" lift, and no armor.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:28 PM   #4
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I had the same experience when I went with Texapple last year to Rausch Creek and we started hitting the black trails and got serious with the rock climbing thing. Back in the 80's, off roading was basically mud bogging or driving on rocky fire breaks. Nothing like the rock climbing that is offered today. Hell, they didn't have off road parks back then.

So here I am 20 years later getting back into the action. I always wanted to lift my Jeep with some good equipment...so I did. I always wanted to go rock climibing...which I did... The one thing I didn't know was that you have to readjust your mind to the new driving style. I use to consider myself an avid off-roader - in the old school sense. However, we never climber through boulder fields where the rocks were half the size of my Jeep! HELL NO!!!

So, we started tooling around the blue trails to warm up and I basically dusted off my old skills from years past and when we headed into the black trails I was just busting to go.... By the time I got through the first boulder field, I thought I was going to have a FREAKIN' CORONARY!!!! I'm totally serous, I was having a huge anxiety disorder... I could not get my mind around how to drive through this stuff because I never did it before. I really thought I was going to get stuck and have to have my Jeep air lifted out of the middle of the boulder field. I was FREAKING OUT!!!!

After I had my anxiety attack in my mind for a while, I had no choice... I had to compose myself and concentrate on driving and making good choices. A good spotter is also a critical component so my hat's off to Frank. However, even with open axles, I never got really stuck and the Jeep never let me down. I drove an hour and a half to the facility and I was able to wheel all day in the blue and black trails and drive home no problem. The only casualties: a missing wheel weight and my nerves. The Jeep is a solid platform.... it will outperform the driver and exceed your expectations. You really need to redefine your driving limits.
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hey at least you have a lift. me and my friends were in a similar situation, except all of us were driving stock jeeps and were all new to offroading. after all the bouncing, scraping, and hearing noises that we weren't used to hearing, we were soooo relieved to discover we hadn't broken anything.

it is definitely surprising what even a bone stock wrangler can do. that "trail rated" badge on the side isn't just window dressing.
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I love threads and stories like this. It's all about seat time fella's. I put enough seat time in my rig after each mod to know exactly what it was going to do. So I knew if the next mod did anything to better my setup.

Only thing that freaks me out these days is going down a water fall. i'd rather have eyes to the sky's then looking down.
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:41 AM   #7
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I love threads and stories like this. It's all about seat time fella's. I put enough seat time in my rig after each mod to know exactly what it was going to do. So I knew if the next mod did anything to better my setup.

Only thing that freaks me out these days is going down a water fall. i'd rather have eyes to the sky's then looking down.
Sounds like a good reason for a new mod. Perhaps a bumper cam setup could help you out on that. Not to mention you could sell (or share) the footage later.

You are so right...seat time is key. There simply is no substitute for experience. I might be a little rusty but these newer Jeeps have so much more capability than the older platforms (no disrespect to the CJ drivers).

I've been out just about every weekend with my son hitting the trails around here looking for new challenges. Snow covered logging trails can be very challenging. We finally got to use the winch to get out of a jam last weekend. My son was driving up a logging trail and decided to stop half way up it (kind of lost his nerve a little), He side stepped the Jeep a little and got us stuck. Going down backwards or sideways was not an option...So, it was his job to get us unstuck.

I was on the dumb end of the winch cable and he was in the cab at the controls. It was his job to reel us up the hill and get us going again. Three pick points and an hour later and we were back in action. Needless to say, it was a moment we will both remember. I wish I brought my damn camera to share that moment with everyone (sorry about that). However, some memories are beyond film or electrons if you kno what I mean....

Cost of a used Jeep = $13,500
Cost of new winch = $500
Sharing a moment on the trails with your son = PRICELESS!!!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:14 AM   #8
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Very cool MOz.

I've only had my Jeep for just a little over a year so seat time is something I don't really have yet. I've had plenty in the mud back in the day but I'm not building monster trucks anymore. I use to have the big full size Broncos and stuff and not one of them beasts could touch my little Heep.

I'm no longer interested in playing in mudholes but I won't dodge 'em on the trails. I'm just having fun.
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Just stay out of open snow covered fields unless you know what is exactly under that snow. Trust me.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:11 AM   #10
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Just stay out of open snow covered fields unless you know what is exactly under that snow. Trust me.
Kind of what I dealt with last weekend. We were riding in a creek for a little over a mile and the bottom was all shale and rock. I had no idea what I was bouncing off of and dragging over due to the water depth.

Freaky but fun feeling.
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Sorry for the long post, just wanted to share my story.

I am amazed what my Jeep can do.
I went out for the first time with my Jeep last year north of Springfield Mass. My sisters boyfriend has an old CJ with a huge lift 35" swampers and a small block chevy conversion, versus my bone stock TJ, no lift and still with the stock tires. I was warned that no stock vehicle, Wrangler or otherwise had ever made it through the trail without getting towed out. Granted, I was worried, I've been off roading for years on my quads in some harry situations but this is the big time.
We hit the trails and so far its pretty easy, a few steep hills, a washed out bit of trail that I knew to take at an angle rather than straight on, WOW thats some flex. Next up, the MUD pit, I watch Joe (sis's bf) drive through, the mud comes up past the top of his rim and it's probably a good thing he went first because now 1/4 of the mud is now on and in his Jeep, my eyes widen, my heart beats faster and I gun it forward and promptly create a tidal wave of mud over the hood up the windshield and right into the cab, now my gf (now my wife) and I are soaked I can't see a thing through my windshield so I sorta panic and stop directly in the middle of the pit. I flip my hand up and hit the wipers, ease off on the clutch and now I am spitting mud up in the air and not really going any where, I stick it in second and start moving the steering wheel back and forth and low and behold I pop right out and back on the trail. I've never been more dirty or more happy. Amazing stuff.
So theres a bit more of the hills and easy trail, then we have to pop on some pavement and drive about 100 feet then get back on the trail, I shift it back into 2WD and pull up and follow Joe back in the woods. About 50 yards in there's another mud pit, only bigger wider and waaaaaay cooler, Joe is half way through and having a bit of trouble with a big rock or stump under the muck, He makes it through and then yells across the expanse to have me keep to the right side cause it should be free of anything hidden. I jump in the deep end and go for it. No problem at all, I get to the same distance in and now I know its a tree stump, cause my front tire goes over it and it gets hung up on frame. I'm stuck. Joe turns around and pull back through, turns out what looked like the deeper harder side was the mild way, we hook up the tow strap around my rear bumper, after I dig my flip flop out of the mud twice. He pulls me out and I feel a bit defeated, sheepish grin on my face. Joe looks in my cab and smacks me in the shoulder "Dude you weren't even in 4 wheel drive!" What and idiot, I didn't put it back in after driving on the pavement. I didn't say anything, I just got back in, put on the seatbelt, pulled on the drive selector and plunged back in, pulled up and over the stump, then back out the other side.

Like it wasn't even there.

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Old 02-28-2008, 08:51 PM   #12
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Get with the program, if your going to wheel with the big boys, get the lift, and tires, they are using..........No big deal, right????????............

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