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Old 03-03-2010, 11:17 AM   #1
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Why in the World do people think the Media is Liberal?

I mean seriously, read this article. There's no agenda here, is there???

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Most media has an obvious bias, sometimes liberal and sometimes conservative.
I only get feel that my broccoli is steamed when they try to deny it ---- saying things like fair and balanced...

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You're right of course, that columnist is obviously anti-gun & now anti-Supreme Court simply because of their upcoming decision that will likely reaffirm the right to private gun ownership. However, a columnist is generally always speaking for himself, not the newspaper the column appears in. It's not an editorial, it's a writer's column. That said, the Washington Post is well known as a liberal-leaning newspaper. I'm glad I don't have to read it.
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You're right of course, that columnist is obviously anti-gun & now anti-Supreme Court simply because of their upcoming decision that will likely reaffirm the right to private gun ownership. However, a columnist is generally always speaking for himself, not the newspaper the column appears in. It's not an editorial, it's a writer's column. That said, the Washington Post is well known as a liberal-leaning newspaper. I'm glad I don't have to read it.
Even for just an opinion peice, I was surprised by how self righteous that was. That combined with blantant attack lines and rhetoric just makes it feel like irresponsible propoganda. I'd expect that to be posted on a Brady website, but not the Washington Post... then again, maybe I shouldn't be so surprised.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because this guy has a forum to expound his doesn't make his opinion any more valid than mine. You guys are too smart to let the media do your thinking for you. Oh, but they think we aren't so smart and will buy in to their opinion.
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Far too many people do.
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Well that's cool. I mean what the justices are doing in Chicago not the writers opinion.

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Most media has an obvious bias, sometimes liberal and sometimes conservative.
I only get feel that my broccoli is steamed when they try to deny it ---- saying things like fair and balanced...
lol, I'll take Fox News over most other media organizations on tv, but I also agree... they're just as "fair and balanced" as CNN is. lol

However, I do believe that Fox News did receive an award for presenting the most accurate news stories out of most media organizations or something like that. Not necessarily the most "fair and balanced"...but they did present the most facts or the most relevant stories or something along those lines.
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I get a kick out of the people who hate on the "liberal media" then go put on sean hannity for some real news...give me a break. Fox is just as far right as NBC is left. I dont think CNN is overly biased but they do sway more left than right.

Fox news is mostly satire and not true journilism, MSNBC is just as guilty...for every Bill oreilly (who by the way I actually enjoy watching) there is a Rachel Madow, for every Hannity there is a olberman.

The biggest foot in the mouth buffoon is ol Rush, as he sits there with, the liberal media this and liberal media that...Rush you are the media..dont sound too liberal to me pal.

If you want real news no bias watch CSPAN
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Sean Hannity doesn't pretend to be a neutral news broadcaster because that isn't his job, he's a commentator and not a news announcer. To say he is supposed to be nuetral is pretty silly. At least he provides some balance to CNN. And Rush is an entertaining commentator, nothing else and he doesn't claim to be anything else. I don't agree with everything Rush says but I agree with much of it. There are some who if Rush said the sky was blue, they would nitpick & disagree just because they're a liberal & don't like what Rush & other conservatives believe in.
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I realize these people are not true unbiased newcasters (though im sure there are people who do not). They are however part of the American media. Being a commentator is just as much being a part of the media as being on the nine oclock news. My point I was trying to get across is to call the media liberal is wrong, there is just as much conservitive media as there is liberal.
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as far as the topic of the article goes i get to hear it everyday living in a suburb of chicago. and the mayor is whining everyday and has been as long as i can remember to keep gun control and expand on it. he is all for the "ban" and what boggles my mind is this unconstitutional "ban" has been in place for 28 yrs????

do criminals care if hand guns are illegal?? actually maybe they do, since they prefer unarmed victims, they most likely prefer the ban as well. every morning on the news a gun went off somewhere, and there should be more gun control, i am not exaggerating.

i used to think there is just a lack of common sense in our government, but i think its more than that, they know what they're doing.
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as far as the topic of the article goes i get to hear it everyday living in a suburb of chicago. and the mayor is whining everyday and has been as long as i can remember to keep gun control and expand on it. he is all for the "ban" and what boggles my mind is this unconstitutional "ban" has been in place for 28 yrs????

do criminals care if hand guns are illegal?? actually maybe they do, since they prefer unarmed victims, they most likely prefer the ban as well. every morning on the news a gun went off somewhere, and there should be more gun control, i am not exaggerating.

i used to think there is just a lack of common sense in our government, but i think its more than that, they know what they're doing.

I agree man, the day guns are banned the only people that will have them is the people who were not supposed to have them in the first place.
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I realize these people are not true unbiased newcasters (though im sure there are people who do not). They are however part of the American media. Being a commentator is just as much being a part of the media as being on the nine oclock news. My point I was trying to get across is to call the media liberal is wrong, there is just as much conservitive media as there is liberal.
NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX broadcast, liberal. Programming as well as news.

FOX news, fairly conservative though they generally have liberals on for counterpoint...not aware of any others outside of AM radio so I'm not seeing the balance you do.
Am I missing something?
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as far as the topic of the article goes i get to hear it everyday living in a suburb of chicago. and the mayor is whining everyday and has been as long as i can remember to keep gun control and expand on it. he is all for the "ban" and what boggles my mind is this unconstitutional "ban" has been in place for 28 yrs????

do criminals care if hand guns are illegal?? actually maybe they do, since they prefer unarmed victims, they most likely prefer the ban as well. every morning on the news a gun went off somewhere, and there should be more gun control, i am not exaggerating.

i used to think there is just a lack of common sense in our government, but i think its more than that, they know what they're doing.
It's a fact that Chicago's homicide rate actually increased after the gun ban went into effect and continues to be higher.
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It's a fact that Chicago's homicide rate actually increased after the gun ban went into effect and continues to be higher.
and to reciprocate, what are the statistics in conceal carry areas?
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media stretches further than just the idiot box and airwaves, print is still alive and well, and while there are plenty of obviously liberal print journalism, there is plenty thats conservitive....wall street journal, washington times, new york post. Online you will find many such as the drudge report, world net daily and, newsmax. I dont see where abc and cnn are overly liberal, I wouldnt say they are right winged either just pretty much in the middle.
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While print is still alive I definitely wouldn't say it's well. Readership is down dramatically and the usual phrase is "main stream media". I wouldn't call internet blogs or even news rags "main stream".
But why don't we look at polls of news people...

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Well I will give it to you, you are doing your homework Let me give you the upper hand for a minute, and lets say most of the media is this big left wing conspiracy....Why?

The media is no differant today than it was is 2005 2000 or 1995? So if you are trying to say the media leans towards the presidential administration its fairly obvious thats not the case.

Who runs the networks that these shows are aired on? All the networks mentioned earlier except for fox are owned by jewish americans...and I will not touch that subject. Fox however owned by Rupert Murdoch a known conservitive, has numerous shareholders, one being prince Al-Waleed bin Talaal of the royal family of Saudi Arabia..wont touch that one either. What does all that mean? I dont know, I will not speak of some secreat plot by isreal to brainwash us all, and the saudi connection with fox?? I dont believe any of that conspiricy. I think its just smart investors, as jews, and rich saudi's are known to be, buying stakes in companys.

If the media is putting out this leftist message what is their agenda and who is pulling the strings?? back to you lol
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I'm not saying the media leans towards the administration. I'm saying there is an obvious liberal bent to the media.
Marxism, socialism, communism, progressivism. birds of a feather flock together.
It has nothing to do with any particular racial or national group, it's a political philosophy.
It has nothing to do with some grand conspiracy in most cases, although the soviets were quite open in saying they would take us over from the inside by taking over our schools and media.
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hmmm sorry man not seeing it. Just because someone isnt a straight up goldwater repbulican does not make them a pinko. There have been plenty examples of marxist philosophy in our system for a long long time, and until the soviet union was a threat and communism was a scary bad word, the socialist party in america had quite a following.

Some people agree with what they hear on the news and radio, you agree with some people, probably not the same people I agree with, but I doubt you agree with the same people that I do. Thats America, and I guess we can agree to disagree
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I get a kick out of the people who hate on the "liberal media" then go put on sean hannity for some real news...give me a break.
Why is it when some one disagrees with a lib it's called "HATE". Get off of it would ya. You want hate? Ask a black man what it was like growing up in the deep south in the 50's and 60's. Or ask a Jew what it was like in Germany in the 40's. Then spout your hate crap. Most people have not got a clue as to what real hate is.

You disagree with me you're a "hater". Waaaaa grow up for crying out loud.
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I read somewhere that more people between the ages of 18-25 get there news from the Daily Show with Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report than any other news shows. This, according to the article, is because they are not biased towards a particular side, but rather tell the funny bits of the news. There is no everyone is going to die! scare tactics that regular media uses, and no bias towards liberal or conservative.
not sure if that is accurate or if it is because they are funny but thats what the article said.
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I have been reading the news from England and Australia. It is interesting to see a different perspective. I am glad I have choices. I think a little shift to the right would be good for the country but that seems to be a natural progression as one gets older. I live in California in a county that issues CCW permits and Nevada is a must issue state and I can't find a single article to support shootings have gone up with the increase in permits. The second ammendment is clear if you note the comma after the word Malitia.
I see a lot of similarities between off road discussions and weapons discussions. When I ask the other side to show me damage done by Jeeps and not a single instance has been presented only emotional opinions. I don't think the Government should be allowed to take away our right to public lands or weapons. Just my $.02
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I don't understand why ppl complain "this newspaper I'd Leftist" or "this news channel is way Conservative." yeah. Fox is right of center. So? MSNBC is left of center. Each channel or news paper is bias for the most part.

I usually watch Fox News. I'm Libertarian, so I agree with lots of what's being said, except the religious/Pro-Life stuff. That's why I watch it. Although I do like to check out MSNBC every once and awhile just to look at what the Socialists are thinking lol!

As for the anti-gun stuff that started this...face it, that's how the Left is. They're like that with everything. The Right is starting to get involved too. They just want control of everything. "you can't have this, you can't do that, no buying this, tax that, blah blah blah" the government loves making choices for you, and try to protect you from yourself.
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Why is it when some one disagrees with a lib it's called "HATE". Get off of it would ya. You want hate? Ask a black man what it was like growing up in the deep south in the 50's and 60's. Or ask a Jew what it was like in Germany in the 40's. Then spout your hate crap. Most people have not got a clue as to what real hate is.

You disagree with me you're a "hater". Waaaaa grow up for crying out loud.
I did not mean to use hate in the same context as your thinking, perhaps complain "waaaa" is more what i was looking for.... I dont take bickering in politics on either side to seriously. I know what my values are are, and what I think is right. I respect everyones opinion and belive it to be very valid, and would never tell anyone to grow up for what they belive in. All I was doing was trying to defend the fact that there is just as much conservitive media and there is liberal. I could be wrong, I never ride that high of a horse, skeeter showed me so pretty good facts I have not seen before and my stance on what I said earlier might have changed somewhat. I know my history I dont need a crash course from you on the oppression of peoples throughout time
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hmmm sorry man not seeing it. Just because someone isnt a straight up goldwater repbulican does not make them a pinko. There have been plenty examples of marxist philosophy in our system for a long long time, and until the soviet union was a threat and communism was a scary bad word, the socialist party in america had quite a following.

Some people agree with what they hear on the news and radio, you agree with some people, probably not the same people I agree with, but I doubt you agree with the same people that I do. Thats America, and I guess we can agree to disagree
Anyone that subscribes to marxist, socialist, fascist, communist philosophy is by definition, "a pinko". They have no place at the federal level.
States can implement socialist policies, and in fact, I believe we should have some level of safety nets in place at the state and local level but the restrictions on federal authority were put in place for very good reason, we are fools when we allow them to be lifted or ignored.

You're correct that socialism has been creeping into our system for a long time. The progressive movement has been trying to convert us to socialism for more than 100 years and they have never given up, they went under ground for awhile but they're back in force.

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Anyone that subscribes to marxist, socialist, fascist, communist philosophy is by definition, "a pinko". They have no place at the federal level

You're correct that socialism has been creeping into our system for a long time. The progressive movement has been trying to convert us to socialism for more than 100 years and they have never given up, they went under ground for awhile but they're back in force.

Read up on Cloward and Piven. Read Saul Alinksy Rules for Radicals. Read up on George Soros.
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better yet. Read The Federalist Papers and get the thought and intent on what our Federal Government is SUPPOSED to look like.
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better yet. Read The Federalist Papers and get the thought and intent on what our Federal Government is SUPPOSED to look like.
Don't forget that there were some new ideas that popped up around 1865; states' rights were, ummmmm, amended.
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The 9th and 10th got added to the Constitution due to fear that the Constitution granted the Federal Government too much power. They were right. But the thing that's interesting to think about is before the current Constition was drafted, the Articles of Confederation granted 0 power to the Feds.

Our Founders would be considered "right wing EXTREMISTS" or "Domestic Terrorists" by today's standards.

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