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Old 10-20-2013, 07:20 PM   #1
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Would you buy a $650 Winter coat? {cold weather jeepers}

I'm looking for a nice WARM winter coat, as cold weather is approaching. Where I live it gets moderately cold, so I don't need one that's proven in the Arctic Tundra.

Doing some research and Columbia seems to be very good for the money. They have new technologies that hold the heat inside... Tons of people are wearing Canada Goose jackets, which seem to be in fashion right now, but are also supposed to be fantastic and made right here in Canada. Also I'm a middle aged white guy - not sure I want to look like every hipster and northern based rap artist. I seriously doubt I would part with $650+ for a coat anyway, but the GF sure would

I'm also befuddled by the "in fashion" thing where everyone wants to look the same... don't think that's important to me anymore. Just find it quite funny. Found this on YouTube:





So cold weather Jeepers, best WARM winter coat for the money - let em' rip!

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I'm a huge skier so I always need a warm winter coat. Would I spend 650 on one? No. Probably not. The biggest new thing has actually been the best thing all along: layers. It seems dumb to explain it but for so long people have been trying to buy all In 1 coats that will be good for everything. Given that weather is never constant, that's not realistic. What a lot of ppl are doing now is buying a shell with some insulation in it but not tons and then buying a down vest or jacket to go underneath. The combo is super warm and super versatile as you can just wear what you need. You can also get a good fleece pullover for the base layer over your normal shirt.

The best place to look for sales is places like
steepandcheap.com
Backcountry.com
Campmor.com

Those all have great prices on jackets. You can make your own combo as I suggested above or you can find an all In 1 combo that fits your needs. Even with the all in 1 combos a nice down vest is always a nice boost in warmth when you need it and they aren't crazy expensive

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My idea of cold is a Pennsylvania winter (spent most of my life in Mississippi), so I may not be on the same page as you are when it comes to needing a good coat.

That being said, I have a NorthFace coat that the wife bought me a few years back, and it is the warmest coat I have ever used.

It cost considerably less than 650$.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:39 AM   #5
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I agree with jkjeeper06. Layers do wonders. I live in Pennsylvania but mostly work outside. My main coat is a carhart. Then I layer. Going from a sweatshirt down to long johns. All depending on weather of course. Cheaper than $650 and you have the option to take off clothing as weather permits. Or add since you'd have it handy. Mostly depends what you like but personally I would buy a cheaper jacket and layer as needed.
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$650 for a coat? Hell no. I just layer up here in upstate NY. I have a Columbia jacket and I took the inner liner out since I didn't like it. On the coldest days I'll wear a hoodie and the Columbia jacket over it.
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The biggest question is what will you be using the coat for? Do you need something to keep you warm for the walk from the parking lot to the office, or will you be out all day? Will you be active outside or sitting still? Etc, etc...
I work outside. The coldest winter days would be around 0*F when I lived in MO, so I'm not talking brutally cold here, but long johns, jeans, and carhart bib overalls kept me warm on those days. Up top, a good base layer (under armor), long sleeve t-shirt, and a hoodie was plenty. If I was sitting still id put a carhart coat on, too. And get a good sock hat, beanie, watch cap or whatever you want to call it...
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I work at a ski resort and spend all day outside. I don't wear 650$ worth of clothes, including my 140$ north face boots, and stay toasty toasty warm.

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The secret new technology? Don't use cotton. I do have a couple of Colombia jackets, they are very nice, but nowhere near 650$. Goose down is supremely warm, they use it in high dollar backcountry sleeping bags because the warmth to weight ratio is phenomenal. Imo, you are buying a 400$ coat with 250$ cool factor/Columbia name/research fee.
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I take long walks for exercise, including in winter time. The coldest days will get below zero F, but usually it doesn't.

I have a couple friends (snowboarders) that bought Burton jackets, one guy's looks like a hoody... and they wear these thin jackets when it's cold out - seem to be warm next to the other people in layers. I think there is something to the more expensive jackets.

I had a couple other friends talk about the Canada Goose jacket, which is so popular due to every rich person wearing it in Toronto... they start at $400 for a fall jacket to outrageous figures for Arctic proven gear. Like you guys, I laughed at the girl when she said the jacket she wanted was $650! Most clothing is made overseas for pennies, but this is made domestically - even so it has to be marked up to the moon at these prices. Usually everything is cheaper in the US, looked online and only the discontinued stuff is - the 1st run is the same price

So would I buy an expensive jacket, No (same price as the wheels I want to get for my JKU). Does it peak my interest - Yes.

This one is $1550

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$650? Geeze. I felt a little guilty paying $75 for a carhartt sierra jacket
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I've owned a button jacket and I loved it. They may seem thin but they actually use a very dense primaloft which is the best synthetic insulation you can buy. I have a similar type of jacket now which like better(rossignol) but when it gets sub 0 or I am sedentary like just riding the snowmobile, ill put layers on. No jacket is actually worth the MSRP. I have a $500 jacket but I paid just under $250 or something. That's why I listed those sites for better deals. You wouldn't pay 60k for a 30k jeep, don't do it on a jacket.

Also most of your heat is lost through your head so if you're not wearing a good hat, not a hood, you're going to be cold. And a good hat is only $20. I'd recommend alpaca wool or fleece. It's just as warm as normal wool but softer so it doesn't get itchy

I also have a carhartt. That's a great jacket for just walking around or working in. It has 2 downsides tho: it is heavy, and its cotton. The cotton means it will lose ALL of its insulation properties when wet and will actually pull heat away from you. If you wont be laying in snow or getting it wet, cotton is fine but it definitely isn't a ski jacket of choice

Similar to cotton, goose down, which is an amazing insulator, loses all heat retention when wet. This is where primaloft, fleece, wool, polyester all come in. None of those lose much insulating properties when wet or damp
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If you have a $650 budget you could do this:

Shell:
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___73159
Or
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___72896#

Under layer:
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___74759#
Or
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/...5?cm_vc=PDPZ1#

Hat
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___14651
Or
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___76256

And then you have the money to go get something to work in like a carhartt (which you can wear your down jacket under when its cold) and something preppier like a peacoat. And that's all for your original budget of $650 and you'd never be cold
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If you have a $650 budget you could do this:

Shell:
Columbia Sportswear Alpine Stunner Omni-Heat Insulated Jacket - Men's, 73159 | Men's Jackets & Vests | Men | CLOTHING | items from Campmor.
Or
Columbia Sportswear Path to Anywhere II Insulated Jacket - Men's, 72896 | Men's Jackets & Vests | Men | CLOTHING | items from Campmor.

Under layer:
Columbia Sportswear Powerfly Down Puff Omni-Heat Down Jacket - Men's, 74759 | Men's Jackets & Vests | Men | CLOTHING | items from Campmor.
Or
The North Face FlashDry Blaze Full Zip Jacket - Men's, 44925 | Men's Jackets & Vests | Men | CLOTHING | items from Campmor.

Hat
Turtle Fur The Hat, 14651 | Women's Fleece | Women | CLOTHING | items from Campmor.
Or
Outdoor Research WinterTrek Hat , 76256 | Headwear | Accessories | CLOTHING | items from Campmor.

And then you have the money to go get something to work in like a carhartt (which you can wear your down jacket under when its cold) and something preppier like a peacoat. And that's all for your original budget of $650 and you'd never be cold
Thanks, those are great links with better prices that I've been looking at. I've heard good things about Carhartt stuff but have never seen it this side of the river... might have to head to Detroit and see better selection. A good hat and hood with side coverage is something I need as well. I want to spend way less than $650, best bang:buck in good gear.
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Check out thrift stores such as goodwill or salvation army.
Last year I bought a brand new Eddie Bauer goose down parka for $20
And a not-so-new pair of down bib overalls for $7
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Check out thrift stores such as goodwill or salvation army.
Last year I bought a brand new Eddie Bauer goose down parka for $20
And a not-so-new pair of down bib overalls for $7
Read a story where one of the local thrift stores had to be fumigated due to bedbug ridden clothing... I will never step foot in a thrift store ever again.

I'm willing to spend the money on good gear. Good deals on good stuff with top grade materials, is what I'm looking for.
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Go to outlet store.
buy $75 winter jacket that was popular last year.
spend $575 on Jeep.
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In a word... No.

Minnesoata here and I've never needed more than long underwear, jeans and sensible layers. For the outer shell, some Carhart bibs and a lined Carhart "hoodie" or bush jacket (the tan stuff you see road crews, farmers and linemen wearing) are just fine. You don't need to worry about being "Hip" because you won't be. No need to worry about getting them messed up or dirty because they are supposed to be.

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Thanks, those are great links with better prices that I've been looking at. I've heard good things about Carhartt stuff but have never seen it this side of the river... might have to head to Detroit and see better selection. A good hat and hood with side coverage is something I need as well. I want to spend way less than $650, best bang:buck in good gear.
You could also try Carhartt.com.
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Go to outlet store.
buy $75 winter jacket that was popular last year.
spend $575 on Jeep.
That's very tempting... wish I could find something really good for $75

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Minnesoata here and I've never needed more than long underwear, jeans and sensible layers. For the outer shell, some Carhart bibs and a lined Carhart "hoodie" or bush jacket (the tan stuff you see road crews, farmers and linemen wearing) are just fine. You don't need to worry about being "Hip" because you won't be. No need to worry about getting them messed up or dirty because they are supposed to be.
I don't mind looking like a workman when I'm outside going for a walk in the winter, but I have to look semi-professional at work...
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Thanks, those are great links with better prices that I've been looking at. I've heard good things about Carhartt stuff but have never seen it this side of the river... might have to head to Detroit and see better selection. A good hat and hood with side coverage is something I need as well. I want to spend way less than $650, best bang:buck in good gear.
Man don't go into Detroit especially if you are wearing a $650 coat. Cabelas online will have all the Northface, Carhartt, and all the warmest fancy expensive stuff. Buy a good one and buy it once. I use to freeze in cheap boats every year than I started buying a good pair every 10 years.
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mapex hoodie i got free for signing up for their emails and a leather jacket i bought well over 12 years ago at a biker swap meet. all in all less then $100 and i stay nice and toasty. don't get the need to spend any more if you don't have to.
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Call me Paranoid stupid or overly cautious....with the weather you guys get up there yeah I would pay the $650 if I knew it would always keep me warm....that being said bad roads snowing like crazy and you slide of into a drift and cant get out...(I Know its a Jeep not likely) but that is what that $650 dollar coat is for to keep you warm in the worst conditions...so you get out of the Jeep and start back for the road and BAM the ice breaks over the creek you are walking over to get back up to the road.

Suddenly your $650 dollar coat is all wet, in a blizzard at night. What do you do? Peel off the top layer and yeah it is cold but, oh wait a minute since that fancy coat is so good you didn't need layers...so that leaves you in your T-shirt...thats not good.

Okay sarcasm aside I have a water "resistant' bag that I keep a complete change of clothes in with a wind breaker, thermal underwear, and a hoody and a pair of tennis shoes. It has come in handy more than once but that was usually when wheeling off road.

Bottom line if you have layers you can strip the top one off if it gets wet. or put on the windbreaker to help cut the wind and slow down the wet if raining or snowing....I do keep a WINTER coat in the jeep in case I am stranded and have no heat. That I have never needed. BTW I have no back seat.

Bottom line layers, and a Backup is always a good idea in the winter.
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Canada Goose was designed for Arctic Expeditions and then the yuppies thought it was cool because of the bright colors(so you can be seen in white outs). Unless you plan on hitting -30 degrees Celsius in Alberta pass on it, i laugh at all of them wearing the $500+ jackets in the GTA at 11 degrees C. Sporting Life is very over priced. Stick with North Face or Columbia. There is a Columbia outlet mall in Buffalo if you want to drive through Niagara and they have some great new light weight technology that has the liner reflect your heat. Layers, layers layers!! Check out Sail, the new outdoor center has great brands and good prices if there is one around Windsor.

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Would you buy a $650 Winter coat? {cold weather jeepers}
Only if something like the following was included inside it. Otherwise, I just turn the Jeep heater knob up.

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Canada Goose was designed for Arctic Expeditions and then the yuppies thought it was cool because of the bright colors(so you can be seen in white outs). Unless you plan on hitting -30 degrees Celsius in Alberta pass on it, i laugh at all of them wearing the $500+ jackets in the GTA at 11 degrees C. Sporting Life is very over priced. Stick with North Face or Columbia. There is a Columbia outlet mall in Buffalo if you want to drive through Niagara and they have some great new light weight technology that has the liner reflect your heat. Layers, layers layers!! Check out Sail, the new outdoor center has great brands and good prices if there is one around Windsor.Produits de plein air chasse pêche camping randonnée sports nautiques habits de travail - SAIL
Columbia is the front runner I think. I can see Detroit, MI, from my rooftop, nowhere near Buffalo. That website you posted has the same prices as what I'm looking at locally, not cheap at all. Doesn't seem to be that many deals for the name brand stuff, unless you get a closeout/discontinued style or can wear a Small, 3X or 4X, which seems to be where the deals are.
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I spent three days at 11,000 on Mt. Massive in Colorado with lighter, inexpensive gear, but was tought about layering, it was amazing. Changed how I dress out when we do any winter field training for the military as well. Good luck with your search.
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$650 can buy you a lot of Jeep parts along with a $50 used Northface coat on ebay. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Going to check this one out tomorrow at the local store as it's in stock. Price is good, just wondering how warm it is. Maybe $79 is all that it takes... and some layering gear.

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