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Old 11-26-2008, 03:09 PM   #1
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Yet another Bourbon thread!!!

Tis the season to imbibe... like we need another excuse right?!?!

I've got two more days on this stupid antibiotic and I'm rip roaring into this bottle of Booker's I've had for about a month now. I'm also going to head out and try to find some Old Grand Dad 114 and some Rip Van Winkles.

What you guys going to be sippin' on over the holidays?

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Same old thing, beer and Jagr. It does the body good.

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02Prove maybe you could explain something to me.
I was told all american whiskey is bourbon. Is this true?
Is JD a bourbon cause its in that section in the store.
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No... not all American whisky is bourbon. Jack is Tennesse whisky as is George Dickel.

Here's a good explaination of bourbon:

On 4 May 1964, the U.S. Congress recognized Bourbon Whiskey as a “distinctive product of the United States," creating the Federal Standards of Identity for Bourbon. Federal regulations now stipulate that Bourbon must meet these requirements:

Bourbon must be made of a grain mixture that is at least 51% corn.

Bourbon must be distilled to no more than 160 (U.S.) proof (80% alcohol by volume).

Bourbon must be 100% natural (nothing other than water added to the mixture).

Bourbon must be aged in new, charred oak barrels.

Bourbon may not be introduced to the barrel at higher than 125 proof (62.5% alcohol by volume).

Bourbon which meets the above requirements and has been aged for a minimum of two years, may (but is not required to) be called Straight Bourbon.

Bourbon aged for a period less than four years must be labelled with the duration of its aging.

In practice, almost all bourbons marketed today are made from more than two-thirds corn, have been aged at least four years, and do qualify as "straight bourbon"—with or without the "straight bourbon" label. The exceptions are inexpensive commodity brands of bourbon aged only three years and pre-mixed cocktails made with bourbon aged the minimum two years.


Bourbon may be produced anywhere in the United States where it is legal to distill spirits. Currently most brands are produced in Kentucky, where Bourbon has a strong association. Estimates are that 95% of the world's bourbon is distilled and aged in Kentucky. Bardstown, Kentucky, is called the Bourbon Capital of the World and is home to the annual Bourbon Festival in the fall.

If you want to read more I got that from wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_whiskey

Another excellent Bourbon website:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/homepage.html?147,114
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:21 PM   #5
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Wow, thats an explination.
So for a starter what would be a good sipping bourbon on the rocks.
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:23 PM   #6
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Reading all that made me thirsty.
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:28 PM   #8
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Wild Turkey Rare Breed with a splash of water or Bulleit neat (or on the rocks).

I'm a fan of higher proof whisky so I'd say WT over the Bulleit.

There are tons out there but STAY AWAY from Jim Beam white label or Evan Williams. That will turn you off of Bourbon for damn near ever. Almost all bottom shelf liquor is rot gut though so just grab from the middle up and you'll be fine. Try a few... you'll find that not all bourbons are the same.
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I had the Wild Turkey Honey last weekend. Have you ever tried that?
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I had the Wild Turkey Honey last weekend. Have you ever tried that?
No, I've wanted to though. Is it too sweet?
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I definately recommend checking out the straight bourbon website. Loads of good info and tasting notes to help find what you're looking for.

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It is really sweet. But it left me wanting another one.
Although I was coming from drinking Bushmill's single malt.
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Never tried Irish whiskey before but Scotch leaves a charcoal taste in my mouth that I cannot get past. You'd think I'd love the stuff being of Scottish decent and all but I'd just as soon drink paint thinner.
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Yea, scotch tried it once and dont remember the rest of the night. Thats what I get for trying it out of a plastic bottle scotch bottle.
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i'd say bulleit is a great one to sip on... good price for the quality too...

from my experiences with WT, it is a good one to use for a bourbon + coke... not quite as many tastes coming out in WT IMO, a little harsher. and if you are really trying to be a beast get the turkey 101, i got to the bottom of a fifth of that on a foolish night, and i think i was still over the limit for 36 hours.

and i second the opinion on that bottom shelf stuff (anything that is named old crow or ancient ancient age or any combination of these words is dangerous) ... thats what makes people say "i did whiskey once and i'm never going back"

anybody tried basil haydens?

is that the one with a stag sittin on top of the cork? i think i wanna try a nice one over the x-mas season, so any reccomendations?
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No, I've wanted to though. Is it too sweet?
ohh 02prove, your missing out on the worlds greatest drink, i have bottles lined on my shelf of empty bottles, i had my first shot after i got a wreckless driving ticket in my jeep, running with my club. anyways the stuff is amazing it taste soo good. you can't just have one sip you need the whole bottle!!!!!!!
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I am gonna have to agree with yj. I started with one glass and have been craving it since.
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On another note I had a whiskey sour but made with wild turkey last night. Wouldnt mind trying that one again.
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Cool deal guys... post up more as you try 'em.

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...and if you are really trying to be a beast get the turkey 101, i got to the bottom of a fifth of that on a foolish night, and i think i was still over the limit for 36 hours.

anybody tried basil haydens?

is that the one with a stag sittin on top of the cork? i think i wanna try a nice one over the x-mas season, so any reccomendations?
You want something stout give Booker's a try. It's a barrel proof whisky that's totally uncut. You get what comes straight out of the Barrel and they rate it right at 125.7 proof. It's a top shelf small batch from the Jim Beam family and has some pretty complex flavors going once you get past the burn (I throw some water on mine). It's actually along the same line as Basil Hayden's, Knob Creek, and Baker's. All are Jim Beam small batch offerings that are nothing like the turpentine flavored Jim Beam white label.

I'm also a fan of Bulleit, Maker's Mark, Elijah Craig 18yo, and Old Grand Dad 114. The only WT I've had that I cared anything for was the Rare Breed.

I'd highly recommend trying diifferent bourbons and try them neat, chilled, on the rocks, or with a splash of water. It's not punking out to throw a little water on your whisky as it opens up the flavor in some. I'm usually a fan of higher proof bourbon but I won't turn my nose up on a good pour. I'm no expert taster either by any stretch of the imagination so you won't get any technical tasting notes from me. I just like what I like and always share info when I come across a good American whisky.
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...There are tons out there but STAY AWAY from Jim Beam white label or Evan Williams. That will turn you off of Bourbon for damn near ever.....
What? Evan Williams? One of my favorites is Evan Williams Single Barrel. Have you ever tried the Single Barrel? I also have about 1/2 of a bottle of 23yo blue label left.... The stuff is freeking awesome!





Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage Bourbon Whiskey

Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage Bourbon is bottled solely from one barrel hand-selected by Master Distiller’s Parker & Craig Beam, Created from a single barrel selection not from the mingling of many barrels, which is the practice for standard blended Bourbons.

Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage is the first and only vintage-dated Single Barrel Bourbon. Like a fine wine, each bottle of Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage Bourbon contains a vintage date telling when it was put in oak. The most recent vintage is 1997.

The elegant bottle is sealed with a cork stopper, finished in black wax and features a distinctive label and gift carton that reflect the hand-crafted care that goes into the making of this Bourbon.

Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage
Awards & Accolades

Every year, a new vintage of Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage Bourbon is released to critical acclaim.
1992 Vintage
"Spirit of the Year" by Food & Wine
"Best Bottling" by Wine Enthusiast
1991 Vintage
"Domestic Whiskey of the Year" by The Malt Advocate
"Spirit of the Year" by Wine & Spirits
1990 Vintage
"Whiskey of the Year" by The Spirit Journal
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I haven't tried the EW Single Barrel. I was referring to the panther piss they try to pass off as whisky in the black label bottles. I don't like Jim Beam but the small batch stuff is nice. I'll have to try that single barrel a sip one day.
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Blended = Bad: Applys to most all Bourbons. I rarely touch blended Bourbons.

Small Batch = Ok to Good.

Single Barrel = Better to Wonderful. Especially if there is someone with the name Craig, Beam, or Noe associated with it.
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Single Barrel = Better to Wonderful. Especially if there is someone with the name Craig, Beam, or Noe associated with it.
Indeed! Soem of my favorites are from that list. Elijah Craig 18yo, Knob Creek, and Booker's are all very close to the top. While I have yet to find and absolute favorite I do have my standbys.
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I have tasted a number of Scotch's, (spelling)...... and a number of Bourbons. What I find is this, the American whiskey makers are all originally from the other side of the pond, and weather it is a fine Scotch, or a good American whiskey, it is all the same. It is all good. If your experience of a Scotch is "Johnny Walker Black", you are missing the finner qualities of Scotch. The only ones that enjoy the heavy smoked flavor of any drink, are the cigar smokers. If you are a true consignor of any good whiskey, you would go with at least a 12 year old single cask. End of argument. Let the tasting begin............. Please enjoy responsibly.!!!!!!!!!!


I just tried Elijah Graig, 12 yr old, and found it superb. And I am usually a Scotch drinker. You just have to get off the bottom of the shelf, to enjoy a good drink. The alcohol content is mute, it is the flavor of the drink, that is important. Nothing less than a 12 yr old, and from a single cask, is key.


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Lol, speaking og bottom shelf bourbon...



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I've just never been a big scotch fan Blu.

...and chez.... for the love love of God... pay the extra few bucks and get some decent whisky.
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In all honesty, I do. Jack is the lowest I'll go on the whiskey scale, and I still prefer Gentleman Jack. For that matter, I even prefer it over single barrel, although I've heard they're all the same recipe with different aging times. The last time I was drunk on Evan Williams, or "E-Dub" I was 19 and even stupider than I am now. Bottom shelf vodka will do in a pinch, but anything not clear, and you better cough up the dough.
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long, semi great, semi awful night in beautiful downtown athens ga. if yall have never been but want to have a ballin time gimme a private messag eand i will show you what a college town is.

two new bourbons for me tonight!

woodford reserve: so smoooooooooooth... maybe my fave yet
evan single barrel (ten year i think) ... great stuff, potent, flavorful

also, i had some scotch. not on the same level as bourbon, but interesting all the same. can't remember the names. something island?

have a good night yall

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