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Old 03-20-2012, 10:37 PM   #61
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just follow me, that should keep you happy
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Ed, I will be nice.. But If he follows his wife will pee herself.. just sayin

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Ed, I will be nice.. But If he follows his wife will pee herself.. just sayin
I don't know dude, I would be very careful about underestimating that lady. She should have been screaming after the shit that Chad and I were pulling and they were right on our tails. All she did was laugh her head off and said she had a blast!
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Just don't have so much fun that someone gets hurt. I have learned this much, Brenden won't back down, period.
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Your tires and lift are fine for that trail. Just bring lots of Depends and toilet paper and you'll be fine

Same goes for you, Brian, only you'll need more Depends
Won't need any... as if I'm gonna do that with my jeep at the moment....
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:41 PM   #67
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Won't need any... as if I'm gonna do that with my jeep at the moment....
Brian, it is not that bad. Your jeep is more than capable of handling that trail. It is your head that you need to get around.

If you need more of a gradient, that's fine, we'll work on it. Just don't think that you're doing something to your jeep that it wasn't built to do. Look at this way. They're things you wouldn't dream of doing in a VW Bug, but wouldn't think twice about in your Audi...
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:44 PM   #68
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Very true... We went up parts of mt. baldy trail the other day and on the way back we hit a 'short cut' off of Old stage road. I wasn't to sure about it, but the jeep did fine.

I'm more just a "I need to see it to believe it" type of person... I mean, I obviously stayed with you guys that day in manchester because I saw you guys do it so I knew my jeep could do it.

The other thing that is kinda making me hesitant is that I just need to get it in a shop for an over all look at. I know it's got a cracked exhaust header but I'm not to worried about that at the moment.. More worried that something else could be wrong and I don't know it.. Don't wanna hurt it worse. I think once I get a clean bill of health then I'll be more willing to push the jeep.
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Just don't have so much fun that someone gets hurt. I have learned this much, Brenden won't back down, period.
For the record I never lost control, I wasn't going to fight the jeep and have it spin out when the area off the trail was more than drivable, I won't do something that I feel will hurt my wife. I'll have her get out and try it solo lol
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I never said that you are irresponsible, I said that you won't back down. There are a lot of varied challenges at China Wall and it is easy to get carried away. Wanderlust is going to be pushing hard because he needs to shake out his Jeep, not because he's trying to prove anything. Sometimes it's best to kick back and let him do his thing.
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Very true... We went up parts of mt. baldy trail the other day and on the way back we hit a 'short cut' off of Old stage road. I wasn't to sure about it, but the jeep did fine.

I'm more just a "I need to see it to believe it" type of person... I mean, I obviously stayed with you guys that day in manchester because I saw you guys do it so I knew my jeep could do it.

The other thing that is kinda making me hesitant is that I just need to get it in a shop for an over all look at. I know it's got a cracked exhaust header but I'm not to worried about that at the moment.. More worried that something else could be wrong and I don't know it.. Don't wanna hurt it worse. I think once I get a clean bill of health then I'll be more willing to push the jeep.
If you're concerned about the condition of your Jeep, take it over to Predator and have them check it out. They won't scam you and you will have a very honest assessment of the condition of your Jeep.

Stay in your comfort zone for now. If you're not comfortable pushing it then don't. It takes time to get a feel for your rig. Then the possibilities will open up naturally. Driver experience is the most important aspect of four wheeling and that takes time.
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Yes, I push my junk hard... But, contrary to what some may think, I always error on the side of caution. I have spent a long time pushing the envelope and my comfort zone borders on extreme. If it feels sketchy, it most likely is, don't do it.
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Ok well it sounds like you guys are coming to my area now. Some may know me on FB as Doug Jensen. Well the BV in my user name stands for Buena Vista. For the not sure about the trail, if you cant make the first 300 yards or so, you might have to turn around and catch a ride. After that it has it's moments. There are areas that are bypassable as play areas and some you have to go through. Second is that you have to have trust in your spotters. I have done this on 31" tires and no lift at all. The trail has changed since and I would recomend at least 32" tires and some lift to get through. Rock sliders will help the shorter guys. Now I have run this for years on 33's and 35's with no lockers at all so you dont have to have them to get through. Now about the trust part, there are 2 areas that look harder than they are but you have to do the right. The Waterfall/ Whale Tale and the Wedge at the top, the wedge rock is gone. With a decent size group it will take about 5 to 7 hours to get through. Lost of BS'n going on during the trip. Let me know when your going to meet up and I will try to get hooked up with you. Have another guy that will probably go too. He drives the Tetnis Shot Special. We might be able to act as guides for you if you want. Plus I have a Dana 44 with a locker now that needs (Checked Out?) Here are some pics of the trail for you guys.

Lastly it IS alot of fun!!!
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Right on doug>>>I am super stoked about hitting this one. I am thinking about heading down there for the entire weekend. are there other trails open?
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Oh, I can feel the owies already... This is going to be a blast
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Yes, I push my junk hard... But, contrary to what some may think, I always error on the side of caution. I have spent a long time pushing the envelope and my comfort zone borders on extreme. If it feels sketchy, it most likely is, don't do it.
You already know what I think so I won't air it in public...

Besides, who follows you around like a little puppy?

Besides, besides, if it feel sketchy, there is probably a learning experience in there somewhere, possibly painful, but a learning experience nontheless...
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You already know what I think so I won't air it in public...

Besides, who follows you around like a little puppy?

Besides, besides, if it feel sketchy, there is probably a learning experience in there somewhere, possibly painful, but a learning experience nontheless...
yes Ed, I actually enjoy our PM's
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So do I Besides, someone has to keep you on the straight and narrow
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Right on doug>>>I am super stoked about hitting this one. I am thinking about heading down there for the entire weekend. are there other trails open?
The Fourmile area is pretty much all open. we haven't had much snow this year down low. Most of the trails are basic off road trails that you really don't need 4 wheel drive for. Once you get into the mountains you will not get very far. Lots of snow up there. In May we like to go out and do some snow busting though.

What day are you going to do chinaman's?
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Besides, besides, first rule of good wheeling: axles first, then tires. Repeat after me, axles first then tires, axles first then tires, axles first then tires...
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The Fourmile area is pretty much all open. we haven't had much snow this year down low. Most of the trails are basic off road trails that you really don't need 4 wheel drive for. Once you get into the mountains you will not get very far. Lots of snow up there. In May we like to go out and do some snow busting though.

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Sunday.. April Fools Day
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The Fourmile area is pretty much all open. we haven't had much snow this year down low. Most of the trails are basic off road trails that you really don't need 4 wheel drive for. Once you get into the mountains you will not get very far. Lots of snow up there. In May we like to go out and do some snow busting though.

What day are you going to do chinaman's?
Oh man, if you can get into Fourmile off season it is a total blast. You can drive like crazy, practice drifting to your hearts content, in general have an all around good time...

Oh, yeah, the mountains, tried that too. I consider myself lucky I got out of there alive...
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Yes, it is so totally appropriate...
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I thought it was a perfect day for us to go!!!
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I thought it was a perfect day for us to go!!!
Oh, it is, it is, it is too perfect for words
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Besides, besides, first rule of good wheeling: axles first, then tires. Repeat after me, axles first then tires, axles first then tires, axles first then tires...
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What, you enjoy breaking axles?
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being funny. And for the record, I twisted one. I actually dont like breaking anything, or getting dirty
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Amazing pix BV, it that reality or a dream? Plz don't wake me up....lol
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being funny. And for the record, I twisted one. I actually dont like breaking anything, or getting dirty
One, one? Man, you haven't even done your shakedown yet. You don't get rid of those 44's and the 60's are going to start looking like bargain basement jewels

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