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Old 09-10-2013, 11:15 AM   #1
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So I traded my Wrangler to my buddy for his Grand Cherokee a few weeks ago because I needed to tow some stuff down to Lamar for school. It was supposed to be temporary, but he ended up taking it off road (without my knowledge) and blew my rear diff. The shop is saying I need a new ring and pinion and all new bearings. They quoted me $1,478.48 after parts and labor.

So, I was reaching out to y'all wondering if anyone on here in the Colorado Springs, Castle Rock, or Denver area knows how to do this themselves and wouldn't mind letting me pay you to either assist me or him (or both of us) or letting me pay you to do it for me, since I have no clue how to do it and we're both Ramen eating college kids who, for us $1,400 is a lot of money. If you don't know how, do you know of a shop that can/will do a good job and can do it for under $1,000?

Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for your help.

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So I traded my Wrangler to my buddy for his Grand Cherokee a few weeks ago because I needed to tow some stuff down to Lamar for school. It was supposed to be temporary, but he ended up taking it off road (without my knowledge) and blew my rear diff. The shop is saying I need a new ring and pinion and all new bearings. They quoted me $1,478.48 after parts and labor.

So, I was reaching out to y'all wondering if anyone on here in the Colorado Springs, Castle Rock, or Denver area knows how to do this themselves and wouldn't mind letting me pay you to either assist me or him (or both of us) or letting me pay you to do it for me, since I have no clue how to do it and we're both Ramen eating college kids who, for us $1,400 is a lot of money. If you don't know how, do you know of a shop that can/will do a good job and can do it for under $1,000?

Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for your help.

1997 TJ Sport, 4.0, 5 spd manual, Dana 35
What is the gear ration in the rear axle? You can get a d35 rear for less that 300.00 that is a take off that will bolt in to the car in under an hour. For 1000 you could get a Dana 44....

Sff customs in parker will put in a ford 8.8 rear axle that is much stronger for around 800. Then you won't blow the d35 again!

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What is the gear ration in the rear axle? You can get a d35 rear for less that 300.00 that is a take off that will bolt in to the car in under an hour. For 1000 you could get a Dana 44....

Sff customs in parker will put in a ford 8.8 rear axle that is much stronger for around 800. Then you won't blow the d35 again!
I'm currently running 4.88s. And I have no idea how that would even bolt on and off, especially with brake lines, etc. I just don't trust myself to do the job properly on my own. And the axle itself is still in good shape, but apparently I broke the pinion.
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Like BreckenridgeTj said...check SFF customs. I bet he can re gear that D35 to 4.88 for around $400.
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I'd be talking to this "friend" and HIS insurance company! That behavior does not fall in my definition of what a friend does!

Regarding getting you up and running there's at least 4 CL ads with axles (Dana44) for sale in this area!
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:51 PM   #6
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What is the gear ration in the rear axle? You can get a d35 rear for less that 300.00 that is a take off that will bolt in to the car in under an hour. For 1000 you could get a Dana 44....

Sff customs in parker will put in a ford 8.8 rear axle that is much stronger for around 800. Then you won't blow the d35 again!
I'm currently running 4.88s. They didn't say whether the gears were good or not. Even if I buy a new bolt up, in order to keep my same gear ratio, my current gears would have to be in good shape to swap into the housing, no? I don't know a lot about differentials, and hence, I don't really feel comfortable doing the work without having someone around who knows what they're doing. I'd rather have someone who can teach me though, as opposed to going to a shop, because then I can always do the work myself if I ever need to do it again later.
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Gears aren't something I'd want to mess with..... they are SUPER hard.... SFF does it cheap enough to save yourself the headache.... With already having 4.88's a bolt up will likely be a bit harder.... but if you can find a d44/8.8 that's bolt in for under your 1k budget, I think it would be your best bet. (upgrade+repair). I wouldn't pay to regear the 35 if possible. Its destined to repeat failure with the torque coming out of that ratio.
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Gears aren't something I'd want to mess with..... they are SUPER hard.... SFF does it cheap enough to save yourself the headache.... With already having 4.88's a bolt up will likely be a bit harder.... but if you can find a d44/8.8 that's bolt in for under your 1k budget, I think it would be your best bet. (upgrade+repair). I wouldn't pay to regear the 35 if possible. Its destined to repeat failure with the torque coming out of that ratio.
I understand that, but if I did a bolt up, wouldn't I still have to pay the money to have them put my current gears/new gears into the new axle? From what I understood its the gears that are broken, not the axle itself. Or am I misunderstanding what the issue is?
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You can go to a guy in Parker and do a ford 8.8 axle with new gears for 1500...
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You can go to a guy in Parker and do a ford 8.8 axle with new gears for 1500...
As good as that sounds and as much as I would like to, I can't afford the fix, and since my buddy broke it, he's paying for it, but can't do more than 1000.
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Take his 1000 and add another 500 yourself...voila, bombproof lol

Understandable though
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If it were my friend he'd be paying the full price minus a few teeth.
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What size tires are you running?

I have a D35 and D30 both geared at 4:56 I can sell you. Just sitting in my garage, haven't listed them yet. 4:56 is perfect for 33" tires and your 5 speed. If your tires are bigger than that, I'd go a different route on the axle...If interested, PM me.
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I decided to use SFF Customs in large part due to the posts in this thread and wanted to share my experience.

I called Josh at SFF Customs and asked how much for a 5.13 regear (from 3.73s) as well as do a C gussets and axle sleeve install (I already had the C gussets and axle sleeves). He said $840 for the regear and a $100 for C gussets/sleeves. This was about half of what I was quoted from several shops so I jumped on it.

It was the best deal I could find and I drove 1.5 hours to take advantage of it. He completed everything in less than 3.5 hours and he let me watch, take pictures (I'm a noob and don't know how to create an album but you can see them here for now), and talk to him the entire time. I was extremely impressed with him and the job he'd done (his wife and another Josh also wrenched on my Jeep with him too and they were pros).

I would definitely go back to him again and would recommend him.

I appreciate others sharing their experience so I wanted to share mine.
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That is very good to know. You don't always hear the good things about shops to often.
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Be careful when using josh. Be sure to set your expectation of what should happen and the cost. He did a regear on my buddy's jeep and only changed the R&P not the bearings. If you are in there, just change the bearings for gods sake!
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I decided to use SFF Customs in large part due to the posts in this thread and wanted to share my experience. I called Josh at SFF Customs and asked how much for a 5.13 regear (from 3.73s) as well as do a C gussets and axle sleeve install (I already had the C gussets and axle sleeves). He said $840 for the regear and a $100 for C gussets/sleeves. This was about half of what I was quoted from several shops so I jumped on it. It was the best deal I could find and I drove 1.5 hours to take advantage of it. He completed everything in less than 3.5 hours and he let me watch, take pictures (I'm a noob and don't know how to create an album but you can see them here for now), and talk to him the entire time. I was extremely impressed with him and the job he'd done (his wife and another Josh also wrenched on my Jeep with him too and they were pros). I would definitely go back to him again and would recommend him. I appreciate others sharing their experience so I wanted to share mine.
He did both axles to 5:13s?
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@ Wixo. Yeah, I would have never really considered him since he is up in Parker (I'm down near the Springs too like you) but I decided to take a chance. I'm glad I did.

@ hosejockey61. You're absolutely right, you definitely should set your expectations. With that said, Josh is pretty easy going and he didn't try and up-sell me on doing other things. So you really need know what you want done before hand. He was helpful on the phone when I asked him directly if it would be a 'good idea' to do "this" or "that" while I was getting the regear. When he heard I had a Dana 30 and wanted at some point to go from 33" tires to 37", he recommended the gussets and sleeves (which he was fine with me already having before I came to his shop).

@ YJmaddness. He did both axles to 5.13s. He even let me take pics of the front and rear getting done.

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Sff (josh) recently installed an 8.8 4.10 in my yj and I couldn't be happier , unless you buy a brand new 8.8 for 3x the price you aren't gonna find a better deal,,, yea, if you want this or that looked at or done then let it be known (anywhere) but if you want quality upgrade work done to your rig/axle then take it here,,, fast and honest and quality ,,,
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He also set my pinion angle and let me know about other issues on the rig that I should consider looking at!! Vibrations now are nonexistent ,,, If he gets a shop in the mountains somewhere he would be nationally known .. Parker is a bit out of the way
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Sff (josh) recently installed an 8.8 4.10 in my yj and I couldn't be happier , unless you buy a brand new 8.8 for 3x the price you aren't gonna find a better deal,,, yea, if you want this or that looked at or done then let it be known (anywhere) but if you want quality upgrade work done to your rig/axle then take it here,,, fast and honest and quality ,,,
Also used SFF for the 8.8 in my TJ. He has a good turn around time and haven't had any mechanical problems... Although the suspension seems more firm/ less flex in the rear than before?

Since I don't know how to weld that was my best option at the time. Set up with 4.56 gears.. I just wish I did the Detroit at the same time instead of the factory LSD

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