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Old 04-22-2013, 09:21 PM   #31
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The reason you have to have the same year or better engine is because you have to meet the emissions for the year your car is built. There is nothing Nazi about it I am surprised how lax the rules are in this state for inspections.

I had to get emissions and a safety inspection every year in VA. I had an extremely small pinhole leak in a weld on an exhaust pipe and failed safety inspection. I had one shop fail me because I put on an after market trackbar to stop the Death wobble! It could always be worse.

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Old 04-22-2013, 09:30 PM   #32
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Dude, don't put the cats and don't worry about it. Go to a performance shop for imports -- as they love to run fart cans and no cats -- and ask the mechanic which shops will pass your smog without cats, and how much they charge. It'll be 2-4 times the normal smog test price (so like $100-150). Take $40 extra bucks to make sure. Drive up, hand them the cash, and they'll pass you. If they won't except your offer (it's obvious what you're trying to do) give them an extra $20 or $40 bucks, and at that point they'll either take it or just say no and give you your cash back.

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Dude, don't put the cats and don't worry about it. Go to a performance shop for imports -- as they love to run fart cans and no cats -- and ask the mechanic which shops will pass your smog without cats, and how much they charge. It'll be 2-4 times the normal smog test price (so like $100-150). Take $40 extra bucks to make sure. Drive up, hand them the cash, and they'll pass you. If they won't except your offer (it's obvious what you're trying to do) give them an extra $20 or $40 bucks, and at that point they'll either take it or just say no and give you your cash back.
Not so easy here......
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The reason you have to have the same year or better engine is because you have to meet the emissions for the year your car is built. There is nothing Nazi about it I am surprised how lax the rules are in this state for inspections.

I had to get emissions and a safety inspection every year in VA. I had an extremely small pinhole leak in a weld on an exhaust pipe and failed safety inspection. I had one shop fail me because I put on an after market trackbar to stop the Death wobble! It could always be worse.
That STILL makes no sense. Emissions are all drivetrain related with the motor, exhaust and fuel systems. When you replace the motor with something else, those pieces tend to be replaced with them. Why not have emissions based on the year of the motor, not the chassis that its wedged into? Some crock of S&&*T government agency is making laws that are essentially trying to get rid of old motors over time. My frame doesn't cause the ozone to deplete.
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That STILL makes no sense. Emissions are all drivetrain related with the motor, exhaust and fuel systems. When you replace the motor with something else, those pieces tend to be replaced with them. Why not have emissions based on the year of the motor, not the chassis that its wedged into? Some crock of S&&*T government agency is making laws that are essentially trying to get rid of old motors over time. My frame doesn't cause the ozone to deplete.
100% agree. The test should be based on the year of the engine... regardless the year of the body/chassis it resides in.
They should be testing the soul... not he body, who cares if the soul is older than the body (profound?).
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:39 AM   #36
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Not so easy here......

Why? Is smog cert run by the gubment? If so, COMMUNIST!!
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:27 PM   #37
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Or maybe bribery isn't an option most of us don't want to take.
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Or maybe bribery isn't an option most of us don't want to take.
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I feel like chad missed my double negative.
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:32 PM   #42
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If they asked you to turn in all your 30 round magazines, would you do it? No? Ok, so now that we've established that some laws are stupid, bribe the smog guy and run it without cats.
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Since I don't have any 30 round clips I guess I don't have to worry about it. Suggesting bribery, that's some clown shit.
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Since I don't have any 30 round clips I guess I don't have to worry about it. Suggesting bribery, that's some clown shit.
Not if he wants to pass emissions, like thousands of others do with race exhausts. Pay to play.
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Would bribery actually work?? Or is that illegal or some shit.
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Would bribery actually work?? Or is that illegal or some shit.
Registering your car as is even if you passed emissions by adding cats is illegal cause of your engine swap.

Lots of BMW guys (like me) run x-pipes with cat-deletes and just pay up to pass smog. Some places, like Oregon (if I recall correctly) have gov't contracted places that run the smog, if that's what you have to pass in CO (it sounded to me like some counties had those) I wouldn't try it. If you just have to go to some mom&pop mechanic shop that will smog your car, definitely just pay up to pass. That's why I suggested going to a performance car place that sells OHV exhausts and they'll point you in the right direction.
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:40 PM   #47
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Of course bribery is illegal.
I would not recommend it. Contact the State to weigh your options regarding the older engine in your Jeep.... I'm sure you're not the first and there may be some exceptions for your situation. It wouldn't hurt to call and ask before you spend a bunch of money or do something illegal.
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:19 PM   #48
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Yup, illegal. Its a state contracted company that does the smog checks. While the person running it may be shady, it doesnt mean they all are.
As Gold said... contact the state and give them your info, or contact the smog company (clean air colorado I think?) and find out what they suggest. If things get really expensive, honestly look into the registration of it in another county/state that doesnt have the smog checks.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:44 PM   #49
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Alright thanks for all the help everyone!

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