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Old 02-01-2014, 03:28 PM   #1
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Detroit Lockers, M/T's and Snow.

Any experiences? And I think it was Breckinridgetj that told me about a 3-wheel sort of driving? If I'm right I would like more information from ya about that?

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Well here is my input on you question. I have a TJ with an Aussie in the rear. Similar to a Detroit. As I was told on snow you sometimes have to turn with your gas peddal. If you have traction in the rear it will want to push the front straight. By giving it a little gas it will break the rear loose to help make the front turn. This ofncourse works best in 2 wheel drive. In 4 wheel mode it will still try to push but the fronts will help to get traction to turn. Nownthe way I drive mine I love to have fun. I do it on purpose. I suggest you find an open space and give her hell

I also run Goodyear. Wrangler's MTRs 35/12.50/15. These are great in deep snow but are a bit slick on snow pack and ice. By airing mine down it seems to get better traction. You might also try siping your tires to help with the traction on the ice.

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Lots of towing and w wheeling experience in the snow. I best tire set up we found is BFG AT's and have them sipped. I use to get take of from the hummers brand new for $50 a pop. Sold many a set for $125 a tire which was cheap. Sipping is a huge and they make your tires last longer as they run cooler on pavement. Big lugs of the MT's only worked well in fresh wet heavy show they could pack and you better be the rig in front. Once there is hard pack they are acceptable at best. I am waiting for a blizzak truck tire for the ultimate snow tire. Soft rubber is very cold conditions but don't run them in the summer.

PS Bring chains and shovels because you will most likely need them along with your tow strap. Lots of holes, drifts and stuff hidden under the snow that is going to stop you no matter how well you are set up for snow. That said I love wheeling in the snow as long as I have the right gear. Women hate cold wet feet.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:43 AM   #4
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Redvettx2: I like the idea of having tires siped. Will it really make them last longer just because of running cooler? I honestly have to have an MT or similar though. Honestly I'll probably mud more than crawl. But I want to be capable off road but I can't afford to have at and then mt sets.
BV jeep: my MTRs now are chopped badly and noisy as all hell. I have two options. Cooper Discoverer STT. Or General Grabber red letters. Both in a 35x12.50r15. Any opinions?
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:23 PM   #5
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I love my general grabber red letters. 35/12.50/15. They are pretty good in snow. A little noisy on the road but I like it. Have been amazing off road.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:27 PM   #7
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Forgot to mention they were alot cheaper than most major brands. And they have a huge rep in offroad racing.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:35 PM   #8
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I read four wheel magazines article on them. And they said they get surprising amounts of traction on almost all surfaces. I really am leaning towards the grabbers. But I honestly love the aggressive look of M/T's. We have a shop so we get a huge hook up on the grabbers. So I'm probably gonna run those. Glad you like them. You're here to say they're not bad in the snow though? You live further north than pueblo I'm assuming as most of you guys do. So your storms are worse than mine down here. They handle pretty good? How do they wear?
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This is my second set. The first were 31s I liked them so much I had to get them as 35s. These have been on for 3000 miles and still look new after some decent wheeling. Just like any tires in snow and ice 2wd gets squirrely if you stomp on the gas. In 4wd drive with the storm on Friday I was driving around in 4 high like there was no snow on the ground. And yes im in Colorado Springs.
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Only thing that kinda sucks is that the red letters can come off. But if you were going to put the red on the inside of the tire any way it doesn't matter.
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Old 02-02-2014, 01:13 PM   #11
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That helps lol. I'm glad to hear they're pretty good. But I'm a Detroit front and rear so snow will be interesting with any sort of tires. I also heard that with the red letters. They said it's because they are derived from the desert race tire they adapted all of the components to work on the street. Except the red letters. They said that if you regularly use tire protectant on them they tend to last. They'd be going on the ramcharger which is a dark red burgundy color so I think the red letters would look awesome.
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Heck yeah. I think they'd look awesome. I looked on tirerack.com and the 35s did get more expensive than when I got them.
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Justin, your jeep is looking pretty rad these days. Haven't seen it in a while.
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I really like trxus mt's they are great tires all around a bit on the pricey side but they wear really well also nitto mt's I run them on my jku and the preform good in the snow and they are not very loud
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Justin, your jeep is looking pretty rad these days. Haven't seen it in a while.
Thanks man. Finally getting to where I want it to be.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:29 PM   #16
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I really honestly think I like the grabbers. I just am a little skeptical towards running the locker. It seems I'm just gonna have to get good at drifting haha. I'll see what I can do and talk to my tire guy hopefully when my truck gets back from paint I'll post a picture and show you guys. Actually I should just run a trail haha. I also like the grabbers because they're different. You don't see many.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:35 PM   #17
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I wouldn't recommend running a auto locker save up and run a ox locker
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:49 AM   #18
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I bought the truck with the Detroit. Trust me. If I built it I would've gone ARB or something. But don't have funds to invest in new lockers front and rear. We all know how that goes. Wants list is always ten times as big as the funding.
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Ya deffinatly know how that goes it's even worse when you own more then 1 jeep lol
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I bought the truck with the Detroit. Trust me. If I built it I would've gone ARB or something. But don't have funds to invest in new lockers front and rear. We all know how that goes. Wants list is always ten times as big as the funding.
Isn't that the truth?!? You're going to love the Detroits on the trail though. Having had ARBs in the past, the simplicity of the detroits are awesome
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Isn't that the truth?!? You're going to love the Detroits on the trail though. Having had ARBs in the past, the simplicity of the detroits are awesome
Was it you that told me about the guy who told you to drive with one front hub locked? Drive sort of three wheeled. I think you said it was an ice racer from Michigan? And I seem to hear that from lots of people! I think the Detroits will be awesome.
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Was it you that told me about the guy who told you to drive with one front hub locked? Drive sort of three wheeled. I think you said it was an ice racer from Michigan? And I seem to hear that from lots of people! I think the Detroits will be awesome.
I was me! I've driven mine around town with all four locked in heavy snow... As long as I roll into the turn rather than accelerate I have had very issues and I'm running creepy crawlers (mts).... Not siped at all and probably one of the worst tires I could imagine for snow. And ice racer is a colorado native that races in Georgetown.
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Alright well that's good to hear! Glad that things aren't all bad with the Detroits haha.
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Alright well that's good to hear! Glad that things aren't all bad with the Detroits haha.
They are also stronger and you don't have to deal with air leaks or electronics to ruin your day... If it needs to be locked on the trail, it does it own it's own.... My only complaint is that on easier trails it would be fun to attempt obstacles open, but it's a trade off I'm willing to take... Not listening to an ARB compressor cycle on and off reminding me a hose or solenoid might be failing is great. That use to give me anxiety on my tj.....
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How's the daily drive though?
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Are you guys talking about the detroit trutrac? Sorry to barge in.
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Are you guys talking about the detroit trutrac? Sorry to barge in.
The more the merrier haha. And no. I have the full out Detroit front and rear.
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How's the daily drive though?
I could but wouldn't want to dd my jeep..... But the detroits are the least of the reasons that is the case.... I just drove it at 50mph+ on icy mountain roads in the snow in 2wd for 30 miles rt to install my new yukon hubs.... Handled just fine tranny and some play in my links are a bigger concern for dd ing it
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Lol do you have the Detroits in your YJ?

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