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Old 09-30-2013, 01:28 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Holy Cross

This past weekend, my friends and I hit Holy Cross, along with some camping about 6 miles from the trailhead. Started off Friday evening making our way through some near-whiteout conditions around Leadville, set up camp in the snow around 10:00PM; lows around 18. A bit of snow on the trail, but it got up to 50. We made it past French Creek but the group elected, despite my humble pleas, to turn around shortly after that. I'll have to wait to see Holy Cross City next year.

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Old 09-30-2013, 05:05 PM   #2
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Nice pics, thanks for sharing.

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Looks like an awesome trail!
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:27 PM   #4
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Damn...nice pics!

This is the trail that i'm building my rig to complete
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:34 PM   #5
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awesome pics, we ran that trail Aug 2 during All 4 Fun, its cool to see it dusted with snow already.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:37 PM   #6
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Damn...nice pics! This is the trail that i'm building my rig to complete
It's really not that bad.... A friend drove his tj up it with no lockers a 4" lift and 33's up it.... We did have to give him a little tug on French creek but had he picked a less aggressive line I think he could have run it clean.... Just some brakes+skinny pedal to pseudo locker action..... It's my favorite trail in Colorado so far (overall... Scenery obstacles, access, lack of irritating long flat bumpy sections, etc.)
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It's really not that bad.... A friend drove his tj up it with no lockers a 4" lift and 33's up it.... We did have to give him a little tug on French creek but had he picked a less aggressive line I think he could have run it clean.... Just some brakes+skinny pedal to pseudo locker action..... It's my favorite trail in Colorado so far (overall... Scenery obstacles, access, lack of irritating long flat bumpy sections, etc.)
I'll be running it next season for sure
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I agree with BreckenridgeTJ, about it not being that bad. Most of us were on 35s with 1-2 lockers, but one in our group was in a TJ on 33s open/open. She did really well. Couldn't get through French Creek but the rocks were covered in snow. We would've pulled her through but another group was coming and she elected not to go further.
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Awesome pics.
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Old 10-02-2013, 02:45 AM   #10
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Ran it again today..... The only snow left on the trail was in the shade right after spring creek. The aspens are peaking, or really close to, so if your considering a run on this, it's one of the best times I've had on the trail (and I think today was my fifth time this season :X ! Ended up trailer in there for a shakedown on the new steering the. Let my buddy drive. Out of the trail. I brought a few people who had never been there and the only damage was some stupid electric step that recesses in a slider on a jku..... Both people with me where having locker issues and we didn't winch once.... In all fairness, one was in a jk on 37's and the other a yj on 35's.... But running zero lift
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Ran it again today..... The only snow left on the trail was in the shade right after spring creek. The aspens are peaking, or really close to, so if your considering a run on this, it's one of the best times I've had on the trail (and I think today was my fifth time this season :X ! Ended up trailer in there for a shakedown on the new steering the. Let my buddy drive. Out of the trail. I brought a few people who had never been there and the only damage was some stupid electric step that recesses in a slider on a jku..... Both people with me where having locker issues and we didn't winch once.... In all fairness, one was in a jk on 37's and the other a yj on 35's.... But running zero lift
Pics of the YJ ? Some days I wish I bought a YJ instead and hilined it...
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Lol. I just have photos of the aspens.... But we got a bunch of video. I'll post it once I get it from my friend
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Dang that looks awesome!

I'm doing some camping near Twin Lakes this summer, and hope to hit some trails (and some peak bagging!) but that looks a little rough for my stock JKU.
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Dang that looks awesome! I'm doing some camping near Twin Lakes this summer, and hope to hit some trails (and some peak bagging!) but that looks a little rough for my stock JKU.
A friend of mine brought a stock jku rubi up it on 31's a few times...... But certainly used the skid plates it's an incredible trail.... Still one of my favorites
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A friend of mine brought a stock jku rubi up it on 31's a few times...... But certainly used the skid plates it's an incredible trail.... Still one of my favorites
I will have sliders by then, but no skid plates. Thanks for the input! I may try Hagerman Pass or Mount Zion. I hope some locals can show me around or give pointers.
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It's really not that bad.... A friend drove his tj up it with no lockers a 4" lift and 33's up it.... We did have to give him a little tug on French creek but had he picked a less aggressive line I think he could have run it clean.... Just some brakes+skinny pedal to pseudo locker action..... It's my favorite trail in Colorado so far (overall... Scenery obstacles, access, lack of irritating long flat bumpy sections, etc.)
Obviously a skilled driver and spotter. Cleveland Rock on 33's- let's see the video please I'm smelling a winch pull
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A friend of mine brought a stock jku rubi up it on 31's a few times...... But certainly used the skid plates it's an incredible trail.... Still one of my favorites
Who are these guru's?!

They must have levitation powers/the Force. You just can't do Cleveland Rock on 31's, can you? Without a winch I mean
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Haha. No, they didn't drive cleveland rock..... But did the rest of the trail.... I'm on 40's with a v8 and haven't been able to run cleveland rock clean!
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Haha. No, they didn't drive cleveland rock..... But did the rest of the trail.... I'm on 40's with a v8 and haven't been able to run cleveland rock clean!
Damn. I've seen some crazy built rigs get all their wheels pointing up

Twice I made it clean! It was amazing. Old LJ Rubicon rig: 38's, beadlocks, rock rings, blah blah blah and stock drive train. Are you talking the right side? Or straight up the wall? I'm talking about the right side. All wheels pointing up for those few other rigs was from the wall attempt! I believe the key was trail conditions. It was pretty dry before Cleveland Rock once and the other time did have a small water pool but only hit the drivers side tires a little. Also, the LJ just seemed to have the perfect wheelbase for that obstacle.

What tire specifically are you running and what air pressure?
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Damn. I've seen some crazy built rigs get all their wheels pointing up Twice I made it clean! It was amazing. Old LJ Rubicon rig: 38's, beadlocks, rock rings, blah blah blah and stock drive train. Are you talking the right side? Or straight up the wall? I'm talking about the right side. All wheels pointing up for those few other rigs was from the wall attempt! I believe the key was trail conditions. It was pretty dry before Cleveland Rock once and the other time did have a small water pool but only hit the drivers side tires a little. Also, the LJ just seemed to have the perfect wheelbase for that obstacle. What tire specifically are you running and what air pressure?
Maxxis creepy crawlers and about 4-6 psi depending on day..... My wheelbase is only at 101" and it's taller than I would like. I've come really close to getting up it. Multiple times and tried 3 out of the 4 lines..... I have yet to attempt it dry though...
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Maxxis creepy crawlers and about 4-6 psi depending on day..... My wheelbase is only at 101" and it's taller than I would like. I've come really close to getting up it. Multiple times and tried 3 out of the 4 lines..... I have yet to attempt it dry though...
Nice. Yeah dry is kind of vague because the dip before the slab is always holding a little water. LOL. I'm thinking wheelbase plays the biggest factor. LJ was 103.4". So you were close to that. Took a long time to find the line, then once I knew it the next time was much easier. Anyway it's a tough obstacle. I usually was at 6-8 PSI on Super Swamper TSL SX bias ply. Good luck on it and enjoy the feeling of driving to the end of the trail and walking up to the alpine lake!
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Nice. Yeah dry is kind of vague because the dip before the slab is always holding a little water. LOL. I'm thinking wheelbase plays the biggest factor. LJ was 103.4". So you were close to that. Took a long time to find the line, then once I knew it the next time was much easier. Anyway it's a tough obstacle. I usually was at 6-8 PSI on Super Swamper TSL SX bias ply. Good luck on it and enjoy the feeling of driving to the end of the trail and walking up to the alpine lake!
I'll be extremely honest.... I was never super motivated to make it up that line..... I didn't want to drive back down it . I'll run it next summer though for sure and I WILL make it up

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