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Old 12-29-2012, 05:29 PM   #1
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Was rolling around on Saran wrap after shooting today, did a bit of exploring and bumped my tire into a small tree. Then this happened...

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I've got no steering and it can't be pulled down. Needs to be repaired or semi repaired on the trail to be recovered. Trying to figure out exactly what I need so I can head up first thing in the morning and try to fix it. So its safe to say no China wall for me. I'll be in recovery mode. Any help or suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. If anyone can help I'll pm my number.

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can the two busted pieces be pounded out and bolt and nut put in its place as a temp fix?

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can the two busted pieces be pounded out and bolt and nut put in its place as a temp fix?
I don't think so. The bottom piece is just connected to the drag link, but I believe the top is the shaft coming out of the steering box because that is what spins when the wheel is turned and pushes the drag link. thinking I might need to bring a whole steering box up there unless that shaft can be replaced. Might just turn wheels manually and slowly back down the trail. That would be sketchy though...
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sorry could tell clearly from the pic i thought it was the fram side
ya you may need to replace the box on the trail trying to get it out with out any steering would be scary
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You've snapped the output shaft on the steering box, there is no way to klooge it back together. If we can figure out a way loose tie up the drag link to the frame we can probably tow you down, get another box and replace it. I hope someone else has some some better ideas. Getting the pitman arm off that stump is going to be a bitch and a half. I have the pullers that we would need and a spare pitman arm if one from a TJ will work on a JK.

Looking like the snow run is going to turn into a rescue mission
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:17 PM   #6
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Yea, towing it down would prove challenging but doable. I don't want to ruin the China run for you guys. But I will say Saran is a blast right now. I need to head up ass crack early to start before other jeepers hit that trail. We blocked behind it with some trees across the trail.
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Oh, I would thing blast is an understatement. Probably won't be anyone going up there till afternoon. How far up the trail are you?
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I literally just made plans. I'll see if I can adjust them.

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Thanks Brian, appreciate the offer Don't get your wife pissed at you again, we'll manage
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Oh, I would thing blast is an understatement. Probably won't be anyone going up there till afternoon. How far up the trail are you?
From the alternate entrance to Saran wrap. (The one on the clearing side) all the way past the woopty doos just about where it meets the other part of the trail. Maybe 500 meters up.
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Where is saran wrap?
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Up off Gold Camp Road, never run it but I think it's not too far from Eagle Rock.
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Up off Gold Camp Road, never run it but I think it's not too far from Eagle Rock.
Correct, right next to eagle rock. I am past all the obstacles. Either some good down travel or lockers would be recommended. It is silly right now.
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Let's wait and see how this play's out Brian
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Correct, right next to eagle rock. I am past all the obstacles. Either some good down travel or lockers would be recommended. It is silly right now.
That is my only concern. No lockers. Not sure if my jeep would be that helpful.
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Plans changed. I'm available.
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That is my only concern. No lockers. Not sure if my jeep would be that helpful.
Going up the other side wouldn't be bad. They aren't required, but there are some deeper wallows that would prove challenging if you're hanging tires.
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If it is bodies that you need to pull this off, I can be available.
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We could go to the jeep dealership and unbolt a box.... I'll be lookout
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I'll see if I can line up a box in the morning. The CarQuest down on Sierra should have one if I cant get one up here. Changing the box won't be that bad. It's the damn pitman arm that will be the pain. If we can get a TJ pitman arm to work we won't have to deal with that mess till later.
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I've read that a tj box bolts are located slightly closer together. Two bolts might be the same.
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I'll see if I can line up a box in the morning. The CarQuest down on Sierra should have one if I cant get one up here. Changing the box won't be that bad. It's the damn pitman arm that will be the pain. If we can get a TJ pitman arm to work we won't have to deal with that mess till later.
Can you explain the Pitman arm for this situation? I'm trying to picture how it fits in to this. all I see is the drag link that connects to the shaft that goes into the box right? This is new territory for me.
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Can you explain the Pitman arm for this situation? I'm trying to picture how it fits in to this. all I see is the drag link that connects to the shaft that goes into the box right? This is new territory for me.
I think it's totally irrelevant, the whole box needs to be replaced, or rebuilt. I'm wondering how we can steer it from the outside to get to the road, then find a trailer.
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It may be possible to manually turn the wheels and back it down the trail with a safety strap. Could be an option... gents, thanks so much for the support. really shows the strengths of this community.
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Is there any plan of attack here?
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The output shaft snapped between the steering box and the pitman arm. You can see the pitman arm on the bottom and the steering box on the top of the picture. Cost more to rebuild than replace. If we can get the parts and get it somewhere we can work on it That would be better even if it is a klooge. One way or the other we have to get him down to Goldcamp. We can tie up the draglink to the frame with the pitman arm then dragsteer him down. The jeep runs, it has brakes, it just doesn't have steering. It's really no different than tying off a steering when you're towing someone.
Now if some one jumps in with a trailer and we can get it on there without steering great. Not holding my breath at this point. If we can get it down to Goldcamp we could at least get it towed from there. Don't think dragging it down Old Stage is a really good idea. Irregardless we have to get the Jeep down off the trail.
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Is there any plan of attack here?
I will most likely head up early... Maybe 830 ish and secure the site with my cb on. I'll post the coords right before I leave and confirm rally points and times in case comms go tits up. I don't know if we can get a steering box in time so I'm thinking a slow lowering down the trail might be the quickest way to start remedying the situation. I'm at the mercy of my Jeep friends so times and such is up to those that are wanting to get involved. suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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My thoughts exactly Ed. Once the Jeep is on the main road the situation gets immediately more simple. The trail is all snow so drag steering it should be a viable option back to the main.

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