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Old 12-13-2012, 12:26 PM   #1
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Mission finding a Dana Front 44

Well there you have it, I want a front 44, but want to keep my arm and leg. Possible? I called the place George suggested. No Luck. Called Jeeps Unlimited no luck.

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Old 12-13-2012, 12:30 PM   #2
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I think a totaled rubi jk just went to F&N jeep

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Old 12-13-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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I think a totaled rubi jk just went to F&N jeep
I'll get on that
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:38 PM   #4
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Yah FN jeep might have some
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I have a 44/60 3/4 ford highboy combo with brakes I'm trying to sell...
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I called down there. He is trying to find common ground on a price for the seller of that 44 he doesn't have it yet and doesn't know if he will be able to get it.
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I have a 44/60 3/4 ford highboy combo with brakes I'm trying to sell...
I don't know if that will work on a JK.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:56 PM   #8
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I don't know if that will work on a JK.
It will 'work'. There is just fab involved for mounting locations on the JK. Not a simple bolt on mod, although cheaper than buying a new 44.
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It will 'work'. There is just fab involved for mounting locations on the JK. Not a simple bolt on mod, although cheaper than buying a new 44.
Ya, but it depends on how much fab is needed lol
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It will 'work'. There is just fab involved for mounting locations on the JK. Not a simple bolt on mod, although cheaper than buying a new 44.
Then you have to make all the ESP and abs sensors work
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Then you have to make all the ESP and abs sensors work
Oh ya..I forgot there's a little extra work with the JK's.
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Oh ya..I forgot there's a little extra work with the JK's.
ya too much work. damn. 37's may be shelved for awhile then.
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Keep an eye on the forums for folks selling axles off a rubi. I just got some stuff from a guy trailjeeps was installing stuff for, he sold his stock 44's for 2500.

Deals are out there, just got to be patient.

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I look at all the crap you have to go through to get something to work on a JK and think "I'll stick with my TJ, thank you very much"
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OK so Chris, here's the deal... I'll buy that prorock, and I'll sell you MY D44 for the low low price of $1850...
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OK so Chris, here's the deal... I'll buy that prorock, and I'll sell you MY D44 for the low low price of $1850...
Chris I'll offer you the same deal, but only charge you $1840 and my front 44 is gusseted with the evo upper and lower C's
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:59 AM   #18
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Haha. Nope. FN Jeep might be getting a rubi take off and if they do get it he said it will only be $1000.00
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Man, everybody's gettin lucky today! Nice!
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Here's my plan and let me know what you all think. First off I don't take Impossible lines. I'm a careful wheeler, mostly because this is my daily driver. I would like to do gussets and sleeves, potentially tubes. Re-gear, but leave the diff open. Plan is to re-gear to 4.56 or 4.88. Lock the rear 44. Run this setup for one summer. Then put a Dana 44 up front. Run it like that for the next summer and finally put a Dana 60 in the rear after that.

The whole reason I am thinking about going up to 37's is that I have to get new tires this summer is because I trashed my 35's with a bent tie rod. I have to switch tires and the monetary difference between the 2 is minimal.
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Also I plan on sticking with trails rated 8 or below this next season.
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Well, 4.88 is doable on a 30. But if you're thinking about beefing the tubes and regearing try finding a high pinon D30 diff housing and use the punkin from that. Your gears will be stronger, you'll have better clearance on your front drive shaft. I'm going to be setting up one for my TJ over the winter. I got a housing from FN for about fifty bucks.
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Well, 4.88 is doable on a 30. But if you're thinking about beefing the tubes and regearing try finding a high pinon D30 diff housing and use the punkin from that. Your gears will be stronger, you'll have better clearance on your front drive shaft. I'm going to be setting up one for my TJ over the winter. I got a housing from FN for about fifty bucks.
Ed can I use everything feom my existing axle and just get a new housing?
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Well, 4.88 is doable on a 30. But if you're thinking about beefing the tubes and regearing try finding a high pinon D30 diff housing and use the punkin from that. Your gears will be stronger, you'll have better clearance on your front drive shaft. I'm going to be setting up one for my TJ over the winter. I got a housing from FN for about fifty bucks.
If I am not mistaken JK Dana 30s are ALREADY high pinion. And OP, IF your dana 30 WAS low pinion you could only swap the carrier and spider gears/locker. You would need a new ring gear/pinion gear, regardless...they are reverse cut. But since you already have a high pinion 30...no need to worry about swapping anything around. Also, I believe the JK D30 goes as deep as 5.13.

If we were talking about a TJ...and putting in an XJ front axle (HP30)...all components from the TJ axle could be used in the XJ axle EXCEPT for the ring gear and pinion gear. Shafts, carrier/locker, ball joints...etc, etc, would all work.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:17 PM   #25
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If I am not mistaken JK Dana 30s are ALREADY high pinion. And OP, IF your dana 30 WAS low pinion you could only swap the carrier and spider gears/locker. You would need a new ring gear/pinion gear, regardless...they are reverse cut. But since you already have a high pinion 30...no need to worry about swapping anything around.

If we were talking about a TJ...and putting in an XJ front axle (HP30)...all components from the TJ axle could be used in the XJ axle EXCEPT for the ring gear and pinion gear. Shafts, carrier/locker, ball joints...etc, etc, would all work.
So do you hink my proposed setup will be all right?
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So do you hink my proposed setup will be all right?
I am no JK guy...but from what I have seen on the trail, and have read on the forums, it's not all that uncommon to see guys running 37s locked on sleeved and gusseted D30s. Once beefing up the housing, I am gonna guess the D30 will eventually need some stouter ball joints. The only thing I am not sure about are axle shaft swaps. I know that in the TJ world, it's not uncommon to swap chromo shafts in if you are running big tires (and locking the differential) but I am not too sure if the JK guys do that too. I am sure they are available...just don't know if they are necessary.
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Here's my plan and let me know what you all think. First off I don't take Impossible lines. I'm a careful wheeler, mostly because this is my daily driver. I would like to do gussets and sleeves, potentially tubes. Re-gear, but leave the diff open. Plan is to re-gear to 4.56 or 4.88. Lock the rear 44. Run this setup for one summer. Then put a Dana 44 up front. Run it like that for the next summer and finally put a Dana 60 in the rear after that.

The whole reason I am thinking about going up to 37's is that I have to get new tires this summer is because I trashed my 35's with a bent tie rod. I have to switch tires and the monetary difference between the 2 is minimal.
with a 44 I'd go 37's... why not?

With gears though I'd go 4.88 minimum. I just did 5.13's with 35's & I'm SOOOOOO much happier with it now than I was before. I wouldn't want to be any lower, and with 37's you'll already be at a higher ratio.
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with a 44 I'd go 37's... why not?

With gears though I'd go 4.88 minimum. I just did 5.13's with 35's & I'm SOOOOOO much happier with it now than I was before. I wouldn't want to be any lower, and with 37's you'll already be at a higher ratio.
Ok but for 12 months im running a reinforced 30 up front.
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Ed can I use everything feom my existing axle and just get a new housing?
Well, if Cons is correct and I have no reason to believe he isn't, then you don't have to worry about it. I've never met a JK 30 On a high pinion 30 the the gears are reverse cut so that the ring and pinon load in the correct direction thus making them stronger. The only thing that needs to be replaced are the ring and pinon.

For a TJ you need the reverse cut gears and every thing swaps over including the carrier. I did check that out before I got into the project because I did not want to replace my TruTrac, way too spendy. I was going to 4.56 in the spring anyway so I figured why not.

I am glad Jeep figured that one out. Why they used the low pinion in the TJ when they already had the high pinon in the XJ is totally beyond me.
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Well, if Cons is correct and I have no reason to believe he isn't, then you don't have to worry about it. I've never met a JK 30 On a high pinion 30 the the gears are reverse cut so that the ring and pinon load in the correct direction thus making them stronger. The only thing that needs to be replaced are the ring and pinon.

For a TJ you need the reverse cut gears and every thing swaps over including the carrier. I did check that out before I got into the project because I did not want to replace my TruTrac, way too spendy. I was going to 4.56 in the spring anyway so I figured why not.

I am glad Jeep figured that one out. Why they used the low pinion in the TJ when they already had the high pinon in the XJ is totally beyond me.
Just checked it is a high pinion on the front.

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