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Old 07-23-2014, 04:06 PM   #31
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Well, I'm looking at my map and books and don't see Mineral Creek. I'm guessing you guys are talking about that section of trail between Ouray and the west end of Engineer Pass? I was reading my book and it says that most people start Engineer Pass in Ouray, and start the Cinnamon Pass in Lake City. So, would it be better to head into Ouray on Cinnamon Pass and then when I leave town, do Engineer Pass? I'm a little unclear on where I'd be running into the oncoming traffic at. If it's the road I described, what's the other way people get into Ouray from Lake City?
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Okay. I think I see what you guys are talking about. Mineral Creek isn't labeled in my book but I see it on Trail Damage. Same with Hurricane Pass. It's called something else in my book. So, I might have better luck coming in from Lake City if I take the Cinnamon Pass section of the Alpine Loop to Animas Forks and then go south all the way into Silverton? Then take the paved road north to Ouray? Then, when I leave Ouray on my last day, I could head up Mineral Creek and take Engineer back east to Lake City?

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Okay. I've got it for real this time. It's not on my map at all! > Can anybody recommend a good map of the area that I could order off of Amazon and get it by Saturday? Anyways, those trails are in my book but the map in there is tiny. I see it now though. Once I get off the Cinnamon Pass trail in Animas Forks, I go west on California, Hurricane and then Corkscrew, right? Is that the way most people would do it coming from the east and headed west into Ouray?
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Once I get off the Cinnamon Pass trail in Animas Forks, I go west on California, Hurricane and then Corkscrew, right? Is that the way most people would do it coming from the east and headed west into Ouray?

That's the best way to do it to hit as many trails as you can while still running them in the "normal" direction. You could do Mineral Creek to Engineer over to Lake City on your way out.

Just know that Lake City to Ouray is going to be kind of a long day, so start early.
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Okay. I'm actually starting from Gunnison. We'll probably be on the road no later than 8am. Hopefully earlier. It's about 55 miles to Lake City I believe. Then, Cinnamon Pass, California, Hurricane and Corkscrew. I would like to be in Ouray before dark is all. Does that sound doable and still being able to stop and see the sites?
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Here is the one you want. Charles wells "funtreks".
Guide to Colorado Backroads & 4-Wheel-Drive Trails, 3rd Edition:Amazon:Books
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Okay. I'm actually starting from Gunnison. We'll probably be on the road no later than 8am. Hopefully earlier. It's about 55 miles to Lake City I believe. Then, Cinnamon Pass, California, Hurricane and Corkscrew. I would like to be in Ouray before dark is all. Does that sound doable and still being able to stop and see the sites?
Looking at the book, that should be doable.
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Here is the one you want. Charles wells "funtreks".
Guide to Colorado Backroads & 4-Wheel-Drive Trails, 3rd Edition:Amazon:Books
Ordered! Should be here Friday. I also ordered some JKS quick disconnects for my stock 2006 TJ Sport. I don't know if it will make much of a difference, but I've wished I had them a couple times before. We aren't leaving until Sunday so, I should have time.

Anyways, here's the book I bought. It's pretty good and has lots of info. The map is small and confusing though and the way it's put together, takes a while to figure out. For example, I didn't figure out until today that the California, Hurricane and Corkscrew all connected.
http://www.amazon.com/Colorado-Trail...do+jeep+trails

I also bought this map. It looks pretty good and most everything is on there. Hurricane isn't on there though. California Gulch looks like a hiking trail on the map. So, to me, it looked like there was no way though there.
http://www.amazon.com/Colorado-Road-...s=colorado+map
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Did you get the one by Charles Wells?
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Did you get the one by Charles Wells?
Yes. I clicked your link, added to cart and clicked order! I'd looked at that book before and was real close to ordering it. You pushed me over the edge. Justin mentioned it too. Figured I couldn't go wrong!
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By far my favorite set of books I have the southern and northern colo, moab and Arizona lol
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Okay. I'm actually starting from Gunnison. We'll probably be on the road no later than 8am. Hopefully earlier. It's about 55 miles to Lake City I believe. Then, Cinnamon Pass, California, Hurricane and Corkscrew. I would like to be in Ouray before dark is all. Does that sound doable and still being able to stop and see the sites?
Absolutely. Every time I go down there we leave from Crested Butte, go through Lake City, hit the ghost town of Carson, then take Cinnamon Pass to Animas Forks, California Gulch, Hurricane Pass, and Corkscrew Gulch and get to our hotel in Ouray well before dark.
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Have a great time. Remember, slow down, stop often and soak it all in.
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I will! I fly for the Air Force. I was up in Colorado Springs today doing a few touch and go's! It sure is a lot more scenic than Oklahoma is. I can't wait to go. I'll take my big camera and post up some pics. I definitely think I'll have a much better trip now thanks to you guys.
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Brown Santa (the UPS guy) dropped off my Charles Wells FunTreks book today. I've been looking through it and it really is a great book. I wish I had bought it first. The other two books I bought are good and have a lot of info, but they're difficult to use. This one is super easy. I also got some JKS quick disconnects for my Jeep today too. I'll put them on tonight when it's not 105 degrees outside.

Also, I've never done trails like these before. Do you guys typically run the whole thing in 4 low? I'd guess that most of these could be run in 2WD. I guess 4 Low is handy when going down steep grades or down technical stuff like I've seen on Black Bear Pass? I've seen it mentioned several times in books and on the internet.
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I usually use 4 low when I get to obstacles and very steep terrain. Owners manual says to stay under 20 mphs while in 4 low.
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I drive 4 low a lot of the time on dirt (except on access roads). The gear ratios are closer. Probably not good for the t-case, but... oh well.
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Thanks again for all of the advice on these trails! We started out in St. Elmo on Monday around 1pm. My wife had to feed the chipmunks. She likes those chipmunks so much, next time, I may just leave her there with a bag of food and come get her a few days later. Anyways, I pried her away and we did Tincup Pass and Cumberland Pass. Tincup was a great time! It was raining almost the entire time. Still, there were lots of people out there. We stayed the night in Gunnison. Got up the next morning and headed to Lake City. Did Cinnamon Pass, Animas Forks, California, Hurricane and Corkscrew just like you guys recommended and it worked out great! We had time to stop and explore the things we wanted to see and were still into Ouray by dinner time. Ouray is fantastic, by the way. I've been telling my wife that we need to move here and start a Jeep tour company where you can smoke weed while on the trail! I don't think anybody is doing that yet. She says it's a stupid idea. Whatevs. Anyways, we did Black Bear into Telluride today and then came back on Imogene. Black Bear is something else. I had a blast. My wife was pretty scared, especially on the rocks right before the switchbacks. My Jeep did just fine though and the weather was phenomenal today. Imogene is fantastic too. We were pretty tired when we got off of Imogene. I had originally planned to head up Yankee Boy, but we headed to town instead. My shoulders and neck are sore. HA! So, we are going to head back up Yankee Boy tomorrow to check it out and then come back to town.

I've been thinking about my plan for leaving on Friday. I had originally planned to do Engineer Pass back over to Lake City. How tough is this Mineral Creek trail? My book says it's difficult. My Jeep is pretty much stock other than 31" tires, sway bar quick discos and I have been airing down. How long would it take to get from Ouray to Lake City on that route? Is Engineer Pass worth it? I've seen some people on here saying that it's not too exciting. I was thinking about running the trail by Great Sand Dunes National Park instead. I have a hotel reservation in Trinidad for Friday night. I have to be back in OKC Saturday evening so my wife can go to work on Sunday.
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Mineral creek was the first one the guys from Colorado took me on. Didn't realize it was rated difficult. It's really not. It was a fun trail and worth taking.
My jeep is not lifted and running 33x12.50x15 Duratracs. I scrapped a few times but nothing serious. Just check your lines going through and you will be fine.
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Thanks for the advice! We ran Mineral Creek and Engineer yesterday. We showed up to the Mineral Creek trail head about 8am and there were a ton of people there. I was already aired down and disconnected so, I went around and up we went. We weren't a quarter mile up the trail and there was a washed out section that was pretty off camber. Apparently, it had washed out from the night before. I went through and my Jeep slid hard to the right and got stuck. It was leaning really far to the right. I thought we were going to tip over. My wife actually bailed out and ran! HA! I was really stuck though. I found a stump about 70 feet in front of me so I pulled my winch line out. About this time, a group of lifted Nissan Frontiers of all things showed up. They couldn't get around me though. So, I hooked up to this stump and my winch just pulled it out of the ground. HA! We got our shovels out and started shoveling rocks into this washed out area. I should have done this the first time. One of the Nissans was able to get around and I was able to winch off of him and get unstuck. They all then proceeded to tell me how Mineral Creek was not doable for my Jeep since it wasn't lifted and I didn't have lockers. They said I could follow them though and they'd drag me up all of the obstacles. I almost turned around but decided to keep going. I didn't have any more problems the rest of the way. My Jeep did just fine going up everything. I scraped lightly a couple of times but that was it. The Nissans all turned up Poughkipsie Gulch. I never knew people lifted Nissan Frontiers, but these guys had some serious mods done. Some of them were running 39" tires and about two feet of lift it seemed. My Jeep kept right up though. Another group of Jeeps from Utah came and acted surprised that I'd made it that far. They had some seriously modified rigs too. They told me that I'd better follow them up the rest of the Mineral Creek trail because I'd need to get pulled over a few spots. Nope. Drove right up. I'm pretty impressed with my Jeep! We enjoyed the nice weather and fantastic views on the top of Engineer Pass. I'm glad I didn't turn around like I'd thought about doing at first. Everybody was super friendly including the Nissan guys. They jumped right in to help like anybody else would. We had a great time and are sad to be home now. Our week in Colorado went by way too fast!
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Glad you had a great time. Cool story on mineral creek.
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Also, I made a thread in the trail pics section with lots of pictures from my trip.
Colorado Trip Report! (lots of pics)
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Hey, KC

On mineral creek, I know that place exactly

I (and Benjy) was in a group just behind the Nissan group, They were airing down, just as we pulled up.

I was the first across the wash out spot in our group, and I slid left sideways about 4 feet then got stuck, I locked up and pulled out. I got out and spotted the next in our group, then told everyone in our group to go high and to the left, they all made it ok.

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