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Old 01-26-2014, 09:31 PM   #31
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Yep. You have know doubt. Usually it's the track bar bolt. It will wear some and wallow out the hole just enough to create a small bounce then once it gets going you start watching for parts to come flying off. I drilled mine out and put a slightly larger bolt in and presto. Fixed.

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Old 01-26-2014, 09:51 PM   #32
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That is true danny, "death wobble" is extreme beyond words, and there is no mistaking it. It's truly freaky to watch. Followed Chad down Boulder canyon once when his jeep was doing it. The oscillation was incredible. I can believe you could crack a track bar bracket.

I've only had the pleasure once or twice and as far as I'm concerned if I never repeat it it will be too soon. The thing I hate most is when it starts you can actually feel the oscillations start to build.

We need to wait and see what Chris found this weekend. Hopefully cleaning up some of the stuff in front will settle things down.
Well rough day. We only got 2 bushings done the front lower arms. They did not want to go in flush. The old bushings looked absolutely awful. Nasty gunk. We finally were losing daylight so we switched gears and installed a new intake. Tie rod ends and draglink ends all appeared ok. The ball joints also looked pretty damn good. The upper arms look horrible. Also the swaybar links for the teraflex st swaybar looked pretty destroyed. Axle ujoints and ujoints in the driveshaft looked ok. Plan to get tires balanced and alignment this week. Also plan to do front uppers on Wednesday.

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Yep. You have know doubt. Usually it's the track bar bolt. It will wear some and wallow out the hole just enough to create a small bounce then once it gets going you start watching for parts to come flying off. I drilled mine out and put a slightly larger bolt in and presto. Fixed.
Agreed Chad. No trackbar on this set up unfortunately. Dan it is full on wobble. Usually I can get it to stop the oscillation around 20 mph but sometimes need to go to almost full stop.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:28 PM   #34
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Stay with the control arms. Until you get those cleaned up it's going to be hard to tell where you're at. Do the wheel balance, skip the alignment until you get the control arms finished. You'll just end up doing a second alignment.
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Stay with the control arms. Until you get those cleaned up it's going to be hard to tell where you're at. Do the wheel balance, skip the alignment until you get the control arms finished. You'll just end up doing a second alignment.
Agreed Ed. Plan is to do tires Wednesday morning. Arms Wednesday afternoon. Alignment this next weekend maybe.
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:09 PM   #36
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Finally gave up on rebuilding the arms long story short is the current CA ends were a 10 year old design and did not want to rebuild properly. It's been very frustrating to say the least. So I called terafelx the other day and ordered all new ends. I can say that in the time the new bushings stayed in, more on that in a minute, it seemed to end the shimmy/full on wobble. Basically the snap rings that hold the bushings in would not fully seat even when they appeared to, which would lead to the entire bushing backing out as soon as any flex or tension was put on the arms. It feels like I'm giving up and I had to spend a bit of money to do it this way, but I just don't have time to continue to mess with it for weeks on end. I'm giving a lot of love to the suspension as it at least 8 years old. New springs are on the way and installed new shocks last week. With any luck the teraflex parts will be here in a day or two and she will be tip top in that regard by early next week.
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:12 PM   #37
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What condition were the shocks in. Need someone to donate them too?
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:17 PM   #38
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Good call Chris You need those arms in the best possible shape. It is really starting to sound like the control arms were the culprit. It sucks but rebuilding control arm ends is a bitch. I did about ten of them over the summer. At least Currey doesn't mess with their link ends, which I can't say for some others.

So, looking for shocks Justin?
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Yeah kinda. The procraps bushings are falling apart in the front. And the teraflex are supposed to be for a 2.5-3 inch lift I guess.
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I think some of my Currie Johnny Joints need a rebuild as well not looking forward to it! But thankfully that can take a back burner on mine as I don't have to street it regularly anymore
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Yeah kinda. The procraps bushings are falling apart in the front. And the teraflex are supposed to be for a 2.5-3 inch lift I guess.
I have a full set of Bilstein 5100's for a four inch lift that you can have. They're pretty good, not great, but will keep you going for a while. Was going to use them for my build but I was getting too many variables so I got a new set for mine.
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Thanks Ed. You are awesome. Are you planning a trail ride soon? Been too long?
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I need to do some trail checks before I can set up a run. By this weekend or early next week I can do that, just waiting for the foot of new snow up here to settle. As soon as I find something I'll set up a run. Yes, it's been way too long, I'm going nuts...
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Yeah I appreciate the snow. But man I miss warmer weather. I need some jeeping in my life.
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:57 PM   #45
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Sent you a message earlier Ed. Wasn't sure how often you checked your inbox :-)
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:08 PM   #46
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I am about to lose it. Go the box from Teraflex today and guess what they didn't include a single smaller rod end. I NEED A TOTAL OF 4 OF THEM!!!!! I am so pissed I can't see straight. Of course they are closed for the day. However the fire of hell will descend upon them tomorrow morning. I feel sorry for the guy who takes my call. How freaking hard is it. They put in a large ends not a single small end.
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Maybe they'll overnight them for you... BTW does the packing slip say just 1 package...maybe they shipped separately? Hope it works out for you Chris!
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:03 PM   #48
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I agree with John, could be a back order or just a simple delay. Check the packing slip it should tell you what's going on. Word to the wise don't piss on them, it's not the fault of the guy you're talking to. And you won't get any favors if you do. Been there, done that, and never got the t shirt
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There was just one box. No additional coming and it had the number of arms needed 12, just didn't have the right breakdown of sizes.
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Well then it sounds like they screwed up. But still, when you call them take it easy, you'll probably get your stuff straightened out a lot easier.
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So what did TF say Chris??
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Old 02-08-2014, 10:16 AM   #52
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Talked with Joe from Teraflex thursday night, he got the right parts headed my way with saturday delivery, I had to pay for the shipping which I'm a little miffed about. Hopefully these will be the right parts. We will see today at some point.
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So you get your er RIGHT parts yet?
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:06 PM   #54
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Got the right parts Saturday afternoon. Thanks to a local jeeper helping me out we got 12 of the ends changed out. The other 4 are clevite ends so I am getting those pressed hopefully this week, but I can tell you I already notice a HUGE difference for the better. the suspension feels tight and even the handling feels much tighter. So far no wobbles or shimmies, but I need a few more days to be sure that it really worked. The only thing I have left that I want to do is install the new coils I got, I wanted to do that yesterday, but we ended up running out of daylight and we were exhausted. Some of the ends were seized on ridiculously tight. they look really nice in there now and I can say for a fact there is no way I could have done it without an extra set of hands. I hope to get it aligned this week. It doesn't seem like its too far off. Anyone have recommendations on where to take it? I feel sorry for the tech that gets to align it.
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Sounds good Chris, looks like you're in business. Did you grease the threads before you installed the ends? That's generally why they seize up.
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Sounds good Chris, looks like you're in business. Did you grease the threads before you installed the ends? That's generally why they seize up.
We greased them a little Ed. Really didn't have the right stuff to do it with. Thinking in the next week or two I will have to undo them and put antiseize on all the threads to avoid the pain in the future. Maybe I can get the alignment shop to do it, one time unthreading them was painful enough.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:12 PM   #57
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Oh, believe me I know What helps a little is putting a screwdriver in the center bushing and using that to turn the link end. Still a PITA but at least your wrist doesn't feel like it's going to fall off...

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