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Old 04-28-2013, 10:48 AM   #31
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I am going to laugh my ass off if you swap boxes and the problem follows. You have torqued nothing, you have no idea if anything is stripped on the pitman arm. Whatever...
If its the pitman arm then he will see that before he replaces it.

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Brian, there is an adjustment nut on the steering box that will tighten/loosen the 12:00 freelplay. I dont have a pix at this moment , did the box that the str gear came in, come with any instructions by chance. I am going to look for a link for a pix.

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Brian, there is an adjustment nut on the steering box that will tighten/loosen the 12:00 freelplay. I dont have a pix at this moment , did the box that the str gear came in, come with any instructions by chance. I am going to look for a link for a pix.
Your talking a quarter of steering movement the steering wheel moves from 12 to about 2:30 or 3 thats a HUGE amount of movement before you feel the wheels start to do something. The adjuster but does not take out that much play it is more of a fine tuner nut. If it where something with a part on the front end with that much play it would be obvious!
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Update. The pitman arm seems to be the issue. John helped me out and we torqued everything down. It helped but didn't fix it.

Gonna look at the pitman options today and go from there.

Ball joints and TREs seem fine.

If its deemed to not be the pitman arm then I will likely do a swap.
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If it turns out the pitman arm is toast I have a new dropped arm that I am not going to be using. Part of it could be the taper for the tre is worn out of round.
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I'll prolly be up there to get it Ed.
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Update. The pitman arm seems to be the issue. John helped me out and we torqued everything down. It helped but didn't fix it.

Gonna look at the pitman options today and go from there.

Ball joints and TREs seem fine.

If its deemed to not be the pitman arm then I will likely do a swap.
Good luck hope it is just that
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I'll prolly be up there to get it Ed.
Just give me a holler when you come to make sure I'm here. I am more or less living in the garage right now but I do drag myself away on occasion...
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That works, see you then.
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Brian, you should post up a pic of the arm when you get it off. Mine looked really bad and I blame it on Chinaman gulch's rock pile and that nut being loose. That might have been what did you in as well.

Not to hijack the thread but I constantly have to tighten that nut now, does anyone think that it is ok to lock tight it on?
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Brian, you should post up a pic of the arm when you get it off. Mine looked really bad and I blame it on Chinaman gulch's rock pile and that nut being loose. That might have been what did you in as well.

Not to hijack the thread but I constantly have to tighten that nut now, does anyone think that it is ok to lock tight it on?
You should have a Lock washer on it? Try Teflon tape...it should help keep it tight without the negatives of lock tight.
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I've also noticed that since we tightened everything up the dead spot is much smaller.
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Brian, you should post up a pic of the arm when you get it off. Mine looked really bad and I blame it on Chinaman gulch's rock pile and that nut being loose. That might have been what did you in as well.

Not to hijack the thread but I constantly have to tighten that nut now, does anyone think that it is ok to lock tight it on?
Rocc, you need a new pitman arm. Period. And you'd better check the splines on the sector shaft.
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Rocc, you need a new pitman arm. Period. And you'd better check the splines on the sector shaft.
Already replaced mine. The only problem I have now is keeping that nut on. Splines on the sector were good. Just speaking from past experience and helping others to learn from my problems.
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Ed. I may come up on Friday after 3 if that's ok. Think the roads will be better.
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That's fine. Just let me know.
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Already replaced mine. The only problem I have now is keeping that nut on. Splines on the sector were good. Just speaking from past experience and helping others to learn from my problems.
I didn't think it would be like you to let something like that slide. Do you have one of those gigantic lock washers between the nut and the arm? Probably wouldn't stay put without one. If you need one I have an extra. Let me know and I'll mail it to you.
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I didn't think it would be like you to let something like that slide. Do you have one of those gigantic lock washers between the nut and the arm? Probably wouldn't stay put without one. If you need one I have an extra. Let me know and I'll mail it to you.
No lock washer. Ill send you my address in a pm. Thanks hopefully that helps.
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No lock washer. Ill send you my address in a pm. Thanks hopefully that helps.
Thanks Ed, you aren't nearly as bad of a guy as everyone else says...

This all does make me wonder why the original shop that installed my lift would replace a lock washer for a standard washer that intern costs me about $100 to fix once the screw up really manifests into a broken part. Brian, you might need that lick washer too if said shop installed your lift as well.
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Yeah I believe mine has on. Ed, not gonna make it today. Work.
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Okay, get up when you can. Or I'll be down in the springs next week, maybe we can hook up then.
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Ed. Heading up in the next 30-45. So see ya around 10-10:30.
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Running behind Ed. 11:30 is the goal.
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