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Old 12-08-2013, 10:01 AM   #1
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I'm needing to tow my 09 wrangler 4dr from the Springs to Ok. 11 hour drive. I can't find anything. Penske car hauler won't hold it according to them and I can't find a tow bar rated high enough. Please help.

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I'm needing to tow my 09 wrangler 4dr from the Springs to Ok. 11 hour drive. I can't find anything. Penske car hauler won't hold it according to them and I can't find a tow bar rated high enough. Please help.
i would like to rent a tow bar or something if I could or find a great deal. We r military and we are moving ourselves instead of the gov moving us so I need to spend as little as possible

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u-hual has car dollies and flat bed trailers that can handle it. i've used them before for much bigger and heavier cars.
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u-hual has car dollies and flat bed trailers that can handle it. i've used them before for much bigger and heavier cars.
cant use car Dollie with a wrangler and the haulers are underrated for my jeeps capacity.
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cant use car Dollie with a wrangler and the haulers are underrated for my jeeps capacity.
You should be able to use a tow dolly just pull the rear driveshaft (should take 5 minutes)..... One of the jk guys can chime in if I'm incorrect.... Also I believe the Uhaul car hauler may work. I've seen a lincoln navigator on one....
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Why not flat tow ?
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:50 PM   #7
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Why not flat tow ?
he said he couldn't find a tow bar rated high enough. Any clue where he could get/rent one?
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Old 12-08-2013, 03:24 PM   #8
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You can find flat tow bars online for at least 7500 lbs
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Old 12-08-2013, 03:31 PM   #9
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You can find flat tow bars online for at least 7500 lbs

I know harbor freight sells one rated for 5000 lbs for 79.99 lol. I think the jku's weigh around 3800-4200..... Not sure quality, but there is always insurance
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The following is from Uhaul regarding car haulers:
U-Haul auto transport trailers are car trailers that are ideal for long-distance moves and have a maximum load towing capacity of 5,290 lbs. Our auto transport trailers are equipped with an easy-access loading ramp, security chains and ratchet-operated tire straps to transport your car safely and securely with ease.

Should work fine for a wrangler...
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:07 PM   #11
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I know harbor freight sells one rated for 5000 lbs for 79.99 lol. I think the jku's weigh around 3800-4200..... Not sure quality, but there is always insurance
Haha, Its mostly square tubing and grade 8 bolts so it should do the trick.
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My jeep is rated at 5400 before I upgraded wheels and tires
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My jeep is rated at 5400 before I upgraded wheels and tires
It was 5400 CURB weight before you added the tires.. what all do you have on this thing? stock curb weight is approx 4200.

also what is the tow rig?
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Before was 15 in wheels and tires. Now they are 17s. Tires are 32s. That's it. 2in leveling kit
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I believe that is gross vehicle weight (not sure how they calculate it) but
Loaded with gas an passengers....
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It says gvw 5400 lbs.
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You are confusing curb weight (the weight of the jeep) with GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating = the total safe weight the jeep can handle when fully loaded with people, gear, trailer tongue weight, etc).

You can go by base curb weight numbers of approx 4000 lbs according to jeep but this will vary depending on what options and extra gear you have.

The best thing to do is get it weighed at either a closed weigh station or at a CAT scale. CAT scales are found at a lot of truck stops and cost very little and you will know exactly what it weighs.

Also regarding flat tow bars, unless you plan on flat towing in the future I would not recommend this as you will have to install brackets to the frame. This is also why you will not find any rental flat tow setups as they are a more permanent setup.
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Before was 15 in wheels and tires. Now they are 17s. Tires are 32s. That's it. 2in leveling kit
So that being said you well under 5000k lbs.. go see if it will fit on a u-haul auto transport.. what is your tow rig?
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With the Uhaul car trailers, I believe all you may have to do is provide your own chains and load binders as the wheel straps attached to the trailer may not go over your wheels. I'm actually considering going this route Christmas week when I take my Jeep back to a place where I have access to a shop, tools, and free labor. If you rent from Uhaul be certain to inspect the trailer thoroughly before accepting. I've rented an enclosed trailer from them in California in the past, and they had to sift through 3 trailers before they found one that we could agree had a chance to make it to Texas.

As for Penske, I do not believe that they will allow you to rent a car trailer without renting a truck. I believe this is to ensure that you are using an adequate towing vehicle. I was trying to rent one from them over Thanksgiving and this is what the location that I call told me.
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I'm renting a Penske truck and he asked if I needed a car hauler and I said yes. He asked my make model etc... And he said the hauler is not equipped for my jeep.
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Penske website indicates load capacity of 4050 lbs.
Towing Equipment - Penske Personal Truck Rental
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:25 PM   #22
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We r moving from here to OK
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Also regarding flat tow bars, unless you plan on flat towing in the future I would not recommend this as you will have to install brackets to the frame. This is also why you will not find any rental flat tow setups as they are a more permanent setup.
Have you ever flat towed ?

I flat tow a few times a year. The brackets you speak of that need 'installed' are just bolted into existing holes in the frame. For JK's and TJ's. when I take the flat tow bar off you wouldn't even know I have the attachment They are not permanent at all unless you want them to be.
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There has to be a scale on base, back by the shipping yards that you can weigh your Jeep. Otherwise stop at a truck stop of I-25 and get a weight. I'd find it hard to believe your Jeep weighs more than 5300. The last time I rented a hauler U-haul provided everything I needed to haul and secure vehicle...
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Have you ever flat towed ?

I flat tow a few times a year. The brackets you speak of that need 'installed' are just bolted into existing holes in the frame. For JK's and TJ's. when I take the flat tow bar off you wouldn't even know I have the attachment They are not permanent at all unless you want them to be.
I have flat towed and the setup on our 06 liberty requires taking the whole front end apart. I guess the wrangler is much easier? Also what about the wiring for the lights? So $300-400 for the removable base plates and another $200+ for the tow bar and another $50-100 for the lights or wiring.

Since you flat tow several times a years that setup is great but I would think twice about going that route if it is a one time thing.
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I have flat towed and the setup on our 06 liberty requires taking the whole front end apart. I guess the wrangler is much easier? Also what about the wiring for the lights? So $300-400 for the removable base plates and another $200+ for the tow bar and another $50-100 for the lights or wiring. Since you flat tow several times a years that setup is great but I would think twice about going that route if it is a one time thing.
My friend flat tow his lj rubicon behind his camper to moab all the time..... Doesn't disconnect anything.... There are instructions in the manual about what setting the t case and tranny should be in.... I'm sure the jk has the same
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My friend flat tow his lj rubicon behind his camper to moab all the time..... Doesn't disconnect anything.... There are instructions in the manual about what setting the t case and tranny should be in.... I'm sure the jk has the same
^ This.

A liberty is a whole different animal to tow.
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just give them a different car they wont know the difference
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A 4 door JK can easily weigh in excess of 5K lbs. Find a scale and do it right. Mine's closer to 6K but I'm running 37s and a bunch of other heavy junk.

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