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Old 03-23-2012, 05:46 PM   #1
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Hi all, I'm fairly new to the forum and I had the thread on what tires to get. Well I got a set of 31s and love them (although they already look small to me). The only problem is they rub alittle on full rotation. I'm new to this whole thing so would a little lift prevent thing?

If a little lift would help I heard the tj rubicon spring and shocks give a little boost ( about an inch) I found a set on Craig's list for 75 bucks that claims to have 30k miles on them. Is this a good deal and what should I watch out for

I realize I posted this in the Colorado section, I did that because you guys seem to know what your talking about

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Yes lifting it will help. They make body lift that only lift the body. If all you are trying to do is get more tire clearance that's what I would do. If you are going to be wheeling then I would start modifying your suspension. As far as springs go, check brands and prices on a site like quadratec. Com so you do overpay for anything.

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Why don't you try something easier first. What's probably going on is at full turn the tires are rubbing on the swaybar. There are two adjusting bolts on the axles next to the calipers that adjust the stop point for full lock on the steering. Add a couple washers under the bolts and that should take care of it. If you look at your front sway bar adjacent to the tires you'll probably see some rub marks on the swaybar.

As far as a small lift goes it would be a good idea for 31's, especially for the price, but you'd probably still rub on the swaybar. I take you're still using stock rims.

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Hey Justin, you're supposed to be out gambling and winning me lots of money, not sitting huddled up over a PC
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Hi all, I'm fairly new to the forum and I had the thread on what tires to get. Well I got a set of 31s and love them (although they already look small to me). The only problem is they rub alittle on full rotation. I'm new to this whole thing so would a little lift prevent thing?

If a little lift would help I heard the tj rubicon spring and shocks give a little boost ( about an inch) I found a set on Craig's list for 75 bucks that claims to have 30k miles on them. Is this a good deal and what should I watch out for

I realize I posted this in the Colorado section, I did that because you guys seem to know what your talking about

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I would agree with ED. If you have set a plan for your rig which will eventually involve some high clearance accesories such as skids ect than go ahead and do the BL but if not then I wouldn't do it. If you are still running stock rims then there are a couple of options to get you through it. Wheel spacers will help you for sure. Spidertrax WHS-002 - Spidertrax 1.25" Wheel Spacer Kit for Jeep® Wrangler YJ, TJ, Unlimited, Cherokee XJ, Comanche MJ, Grand Cherokee ZJ & Liberty KJ with 5x4.5" Bolt Pattern - Quadratec
and this is as simpe as pull the wheel off... add spacer ...put wheel on. or if you plan on new wheels you can start looking or those. maybe craigslist or forum classified for some cheaper ones at first. IMO these are the best routes to take.
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I'm not on a pc Ed. I'm actually on my phone while gambling :-)
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Hmm... My ultimate goal, I'm thinking 33's and everything just built up.

I looked at my sway bars and they looked fine not scratched up, but I'll look again in the light...

What are your opinions on the rubicon springs and shocks, I'm a Broke college student so it seemed like a good option along with the wheel spacers
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Hmm... My ultimate goal, I'm thinking 33's and everything just built up.

I looked at my sway bars and they looked fine not scratched up, but I'll look again in the light...

What are your opinions on the rubicon springs and shocks, I'm a Broke college student so it seemed like a good option along with the wheel spacers
Sway bars are the least of your problems, don't worry about them, the most you'd need to do would be add disconnects to the front sway bar.

If you are going to stay with 31's for the time being that rubicon setup can't be beat. It's not enough lift for 33's though. You would need to add two inch spacers for 33's and that would not be a very good setup, too stiff.

You can go a while on 31's, I can still do some nasty stuff on 31's, you just need to know what you're doing. If you are going to stay with the 31's for a while grab that rubicon setup, it is dirt cheap, and good to boot. Much, much better than going the spacer route, and cheaper. Those stupid things cost an arm and a leg.

Don't worry about wheel spacers until you check out shimming your wheel stops. The spacers won't buy you much for the time being and you're better off paying less than a dollar for the washers than a C-note for the spacers. I've had the same problem, because I've stuck with stock wheels. The washer trick works and Jerry B. suggests the same thing. I love to give him crap but he really does know what he's talking about.

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I agree with the others. What yo need to do is put some washers in your steering stops. This will help your tires from rubbing, sorry Old Guy, your lower controll arms. With the new tires being a little bit taller and a little bit wider, your tires are rubbing your controll arms. By putting in those washers your worries will be over. I have take 2 pics of what I am talking about. First is the steering stop bolt. It is in the middle of the pic. Just take it off and install a washer or 2. The second is of the lower controll arm. You will see where my tires have been rubbiing for quite a while. This has now been fixed by getting new wheels with a different back spacing. I hope this helps you out.
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Man that looks easier then I thought!

About the springs and shocks, well see

I'm over do on pictures, so they are soon to come!
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Thanks for the help everyone! I fixed it for 83 cents, it took 2 washers on each side to do it, they barley rubbed with one wash and here is how they lookClick image for larger version

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i have 32s on a 2" spacer and rubi springs. with that combo, due to saggy springs or just luck, i got 4" of lift, just be ready to scramble to get shocks for that amount of lift and new bump stops at a minimum, and you might need to get a tcase drop if you get vibrations and some control arms (im trying to track those down still). but you can run 33s with that combo, im about to step upto 35s
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The combo I'm looking at comes with the springs, but do you think I'll need bump stops with just the springs?

I'm going to have to hide them, my mother (who I'm still living with throughout college) asks me all the time now, what's cheaper you friend from high school who has a drug problem or you with a jeep problem!
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you well need the bump stops if your doing spacers and rubi springs, i know you cant see it in the pictures but im very confident i would of lost a spring if i didnt have the extensions
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Damn I hate it when we are right. LOL Looks good too!
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Really, I love it when you guys are right! Makes my life easy
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The combo I'm looking at comes with the springs, but do you think I'll need bump stops with just the springs?

I'm going to have to hide them, my mother (who I'm still living with throughout college) asks me all the time now, what's cheaper you friend from high school who has a drug problem or you with a jeep problem!
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The combo I'm looking at comes with the springs, but do you think I'll need bump stops with just the springs?

I'm going to have to hide them, my mother (who I'm still living with throughout college) asks me all the time now, what's cheaper you friend from high school who has a drug problem or you with a jeep problem!
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