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Old 05-01-2012, 10:58 AM   #1
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Doorless Legality?

Anybody know about the laws regarding driving w/o doors in Oregon?

Also w/o side mirrors?

I'll get some side mirrors eventually...but not yet

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Old 05-01-2012, 06:09 PM   #2
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Looks like all you need is a rear-view mirror.

I have driven sans doors for a while now, and never had any issues. Just stay away from Lake Oswego and you should be fine.


Originally Posted by oregon.gov
(Mirrors)
815.235 Operation without rearview
mirror; exemptions; penalty. (1) A person
commits the offense of operation without a
rearview mirror if the person does any of the
following:
(a) Drives or moves on any highway any
motor vehicle that is not equipped with a
rearview mirror or device that meets the requirements
under this section.
(b) Owns a motor vehicle and causes or
knowingly permits the vehicle to be driven
or moved on any highway when the vehicle
is not equipped with a rearview mirror or
device that meets the requirements under
this section.
(2) A rearview mirror or device only
meets the requirements of this section if it
enables the driver of the vehicle to have
such a clear and unobstructed view of the
rear at all times and under all conditions of
load as will enable the driver to see any
other vehicle approaching from not less than
200 feet in the rear on an unobstructed road.
(3) This section does not apply to the
following vehicles:
(a) Vehicles of special interest that are
registered under ORS 805.020 and that were
not equipped with rearview mirrors when
originally manufactured.
(b) Road machinery, road rollers or farm
tractors.
(c) Antique motor vehicles that are registered
under ORS 805.010 and that were not
equipped with rearview mirrors when originally
manufactured.
(4) The offense described in this section,
operation without a rearview mirror, is a
Class

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Old 05-01-2012, 09:49 PM   #3
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I thought you had to have at least two rear facing mirrors, so one besides rear view on window. Maybe getting the Oregon law mixed up with Washington though. Get a cheap mirror and bolt it to your hinge, think I spent about 15 on mine and it's even functional. Never had any issues running anywhere around town though without doors.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:50 PM   #4
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Ive driven with out doors and side mirrors in Washington. Oregon and California with out any issues.
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:25 PM   #5
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:38 PM   #6
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I am pretty sure its 2 rear facing mirrors.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:29 AM   #7
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The way the ORS's read you can get a ticket for not having doors. Unless the Jeep did not come with them, as in CJ's where it was an option. I think most cops overlook it, or just don't know. A few years ago the cops in southern Oregon liked to ticket XJs and trucks that took there doors off. Never heard of a problem with Wranglers.

I see running side mirrors and some sort of a trail doors as a way to prevent interaction with a LEO. The less reason to be pulled over the better, but that's just me.
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My husband bought a kit for when he takes the doors off that he can bolt the mirrors to the Frame..

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Old 05-02-2012, 12:26 PM   #9
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I dont belive mirrors are required if your jeep is equipped with removable doors. If was required Jeep would have built the mirrors into the windshield frames. Just like review mirror is not need if your fold your windshield down.
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The only problem I have ever had was when I backed into and drove over a 2012 Ducati Streetfighter S.
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The only problem I have ever had was when I backed into and drove over a 2012 Ducati Streetfighter S.
Yikes LOL...

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The only problem I have ever had was when I backed into and drove over a 2012 Ducati Streetfighter S.
Woah!!
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It's technically LEGAL to take the doors off ANY vehicle, given they have a door sill greater than 4" which tj's and prior have. Jk's im not sure if they technically do. Xj's legally can tho I know that.
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I can see taking mirrors off on trail, I dont and wouldnt, I like to see all around my Jeep, but on the road dont you have enough blind areas with the mirrors on? In my own opinion I would feel unsafe driving and knowing if I had to make an evasive maneuver that there may or may not be something next to me, in the time it would take to turn and look it would be too late, scanning a mirror takes no time. and some mirrors look really good without doors, and serve additional trail duty, like mounting the Olympic mirrors upside down on trail, you can see from the drivers seat exactly where your rear line is, an excellent advantage and great tool when you have no spotter.
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I use my mirrors on and off road that is why I got mirror movers before getting my tube doors, now I mount them right back on the tube doors. I probably rely on my mirrors now on the trail than the road for the simple fact i'm usually driving a lone and they become my spotters :-)

I personally don't like and won't drive with out mirrors.
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After years of operating heavy equipment (loaders, forklifts, roll/bail grabbers, dozer) with no mirrors I got use to not using them at all. When I had my full doors the mirrors where never set right. They where in what ever position the last tree put them in.
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It's technically LEGAL to take the doors off ANY vehicle, given they have a door sill greater than 4" which tj's and prior have. Jk's im not sure if they technically do. Xj's legally can tho I know that.
Only down side to that is the doors on most vehicles provide a huge part of the structural strength to the vehicle. Wrangles are designed with that in mind, so the roof and doors are only there to protect you from the elements (wranglers even have that written on stickers in them)
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Only down side to that is the doors on most vehicles provide a huge part of the structural strength to the vehicle. Wrangles are designed with that in mind, so the roof and doors are only there to protect you from the elements (wranglers even have that written on stickers in them)
Very true, my hard top had a sticker saying that.
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Its odd that Jeep would claim any structural strength from a hard top since its an option, given that the windshield folds down if you take out ONE bolt on each side thats not exactly the pinnacle of strutcural integrity. in a normal car, yes, my Fiero has a space frame and the body is integral, the Jeep has a full box frame and given the way the body mounts work the tub gives no structural support, if you were to cut away any section of frame from control arm to control arm and rely on the tub for strength it would fold very fast, thats what makes the tops and front roll bars an option.

oops, I read wrong and got all preachy to the choir lol :")
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That's what they were saying, that the doors and top give no structural strength to a Jeep :-)\
and there are stickers in side the jeep saying just that.
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oh, sorry, (this is why I shouldnt read within minutes of waking up lol)
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oh, sorry, (this is why I shouldnt read within minutes of waking up lol)
BOY i know that feeling!

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