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Old 12-27-2011, 10:06 PM   #1
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i am getting a 4 inch lift kit and SYE for my TJ, do i need to replace the front driveline or is the stock drive line long enough

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Old 12-27-2011, 10:24 PM   #2
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not sure on that one, I was able to use my stock one after i did my lift. Wont know till you get it lifted

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Old 12-28-2011, 10:03 AM   #3
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now to figure out the best lift to get, i am looking at zone, a brand im not to familiar with them seem to have good reviews, i am also looking at full traction, not very many lifts come with upper control arms, so far for 2000 full traction has the most complete and come with a 3 link set up in the rear or for the same price 4.5" Suspension System by 4Wheel Drive Hardware® for Jeep. i just dont know if 2000 is worth it right now. zone is 500 which would allow me to get the sye and driveline. and still have money left over. but i am sure i will need upper control arms
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:13 PM   #4
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If I had a TJ and wanted 33's this is what i would get. Only thing is no shocks but you can get the ones you want, instead of settling for whats in the kit.Rubicon Express Part RE7000 - 4.5" Super-Flex Also heres a link for for some shocks too http://www.4wheelparts.com/Lift-Kits...pn=R%2fERXJ701
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The RE lift is what came on my TJ. no complaints so far.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:33 PM   #6
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i have been looking at the re7000 4.5 lift also the bds 4.5 lift comes with shocks, so many choices
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:38 PM   #7
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Im buying RE 1.5" SOA leaf springs here friday, after I bent mine falling asleep at the wheel.
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:40 PM   #8
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going with the RE7000 4.5 lift. i found a deal when i get a advanced adapters SYE and tom woods drive shaft for free, upgraded to adjustable control arms with shocks for about 2000
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:50 AM   #9
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since i am getting the re7000 4.5 lift i have the choice of bilstien 5100 shock, re monotubes, or old man emu shocks, and thoughts on which is better. also i have read about spring perches in the rear to help re angle the springs to reduce the spring arch, do i need to worry about this?
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:08 AM   #10
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I love how my Bilstien 5100's ride on my JK. With that said I have a 3.5" Rock Krawler lift on my JK. It came out big, but with an advertised 3.5" it came with spring correction wedges in the rear. The TJ's have even shorter control arms IIRC so your axle would start to angle more with the same amount of lift. I'd look into the spring perches.

Keep in mind I know nothing about the TJ's, just the JK's.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:16 AM   #11
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I love how my Bilstien 5100's ride on my JK. With that said I have a 3.5" Rock Krawler lift on my JK. It came out big, but with an advertised 3.5" it came with spring correction wedges in the rear. The TJ's have even shorter control arms IIRC so your axle would start to angle more with the same amount of lift. I'd look into the spring perches.

Keep in mind I know nothing about the TJ's, just the JK's.
thanks i have heard alot about this issue, but i dont really know anyone who has a tj with a tall lift and has used them i just dont wanna spend all this money to find out i need to have more things done
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Two of our Jeeps have the upper perch moved back into alignment. We actually cut them out and rewelded them to correct the spring angle. Well worth the effort!
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Two of our Jeeps have the upper perch moved back into alignment. We actually cut them out and rewelded them to correct the spring angle. Well worth the effort!
does moving the stock perches add to the lift height or does it stay the same
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I don't think it adds lift just makes the spring stright up and down. Not at an angle, this helps with alignment, and pinion angle.
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so sounds like a smart choice is to have some one cut and re weld my upper spring perch when they install my lift kit
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:46 PM   #16
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Not going to be cheap, I would help, but I got my own problems now that I drove my jeep in to a ditch at 55mph.
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I don't think it adds lift just makes the spring stright up and down. Not at an angle, this helps with alignment, and pinion angle.
i would think it would add to ur lift a little bit. the shortest distances between two points is a streight line. so if u take a line that that is 3 inches long and lay it at and angle, mark the bottom and top points, turn the line streight up and down it will be longer. (hints, A squared + b squared= c squared.... C will never be = to B or C)
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:11 PM   #18
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crappy i dont need more height that just changes everything again
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crappy i dont need more height that just changes everything again
idk how much it would change it but it would change some what.
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:37 PM   #20
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I'll stick with giving YJ advise
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:21 PM   #21
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think i will call jeep west back tomorrow and find out how much more it would be to relocate the perch while they are doing the lift
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It doesn't add much height, maybe half an inch at the most. Helps if you are loading the back of your Jeep with equipment or cargo. Not very noticeable at all. Let me know if you need some help with that, we have done a few rigs now, pretty straight forward.
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half an inch isnt too bad i guess, maybe i will add a spacer to the front to equal that out, keep getting taller and taller
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:23 PM   #24
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Any opinion on shocks, I have the option of RE mono tube, old man emu, and bilstein 5100. I can substitute in a differnt shock, what's better
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:36 PM   #25
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I'm running the rancho 9000xl, there 9 way adjustable.
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I love my bilsteins!
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i think i am gonnna go with the bilstieins, the have great reviews
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What size tire are you going to run with this lift?

The Bilstiens are a great shock choice. I have the RE 3.5" lift on my jeep it has lots of room for 33" tires.
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Right now I have 33s I wanna go up to like 35s but I have to do alot of axle upgrades to do that. Stock d30/35 3:73 gear would die under that load
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The dana 30 is plenty strong to run 35's locked in stock form. The 35 will need to be replaced if you want 35's or bigger. Since you dont have the fab tools to build a bolt in rear end have you looked at G2 axles they make complete bolt in axle in what ever gear or lock combo you want. Im planning on getting there dana 44 axle be for my next Rubicon trip. The axle tubes are alot stronger then my CAD dana 30. When I do get it ill be looking at selling my super 30, it has 4.56 gears Eton E locker and 30 spline molly shafts. looking at getting $1200 out of it.

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