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Old 02-02-2012, 09:21 PM   #31
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Well just so you know its fed law so you could get a ticket for not having it.

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Old 02-02-2012, 09:26 PM   #32
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really how is that a law i still have 2 brake lights

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Telling you what my shop told me.

Just did some research, there is some debate over the meaning of the law. Yes Federal law requires manufactures to make cars and trucks with a 3rd break light. But this is where it gets debated LOL some say that after it is purchased there is no fed law stating you must keep it, that is it state law the say yes or no. And supposedly not many states have such laws.

There is a thread about it on JF Is it legal to not have a 3rd brake light in New Jersey - Page 2 - JeepForum.com

they can't seem to agree on it either LOL
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yea, i know on some trucks the conopys dont come with brake lights so they get blocked, i am more worried about mud flaps and fender flares before the brake light lol
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LOL just make sure the tires are covered LOL
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:02 PM   #36
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oh their not lol about a 1/4 of the tire sticks out past the fender flare
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LOL by Oregon state law ( and I have the book mark if you want it LOL) they have to be covered. With that being said it is of those things, that you may or many not be hit with it. Totally depends on the cop.
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so far i am been lucky(knock on wood) but its a fix it ticket
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Woohoo ... I got the 18th off so I get to join you all for the TSF run
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Awesome!!!!!
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I'd like to go too! Im 3 years new to Oregon. Got baptised on wheeling with the guys / gals from Mid Valley Crawlers in a pink Suzuki Sidekick. Fast forward leaving out the details.. I now own a 97 TJ. Its bone stock, and needs to get dirty. I went to thier meeting last night and they too are planning a trip to Browns camp on the 18th. Might be a chance to cross paths and meet a EXCELLENT group of responcible wheelers.
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We have a meeting this Sunday if you are interested. We would love to meet you. Check the link in my signature for details.

We have a large group going, so we will be splitting it in half by skill level. If you see my jeep give a wave :-)

If you have any questions feel free to contact me. :-)
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I'm planning on making an appearance at the meeting Sunday. Looking forward to meeting you and a bunch of other Jeepers then.
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AWESOME! See you then!
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I have only needed mine 2 times. Both times last Sunday LOL But I have used it for others in the past, and glad I have it just in case.
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I'm glad we all had a winch that Sunday, and I am especially glad you have a hi-lift jack .

Cause of that trip Im build a new rear bumber with a warn 8000lbs winch in the rear. Also hard wireing both winches so I dont have to get out of the jeep.
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Chris I always thought the idea of a rear winch was a good one, just never thought hard about it, but Yeah i'm sold on it now LOL
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I'm new to wheelin and all ... so my ideas are not limited to rational thought... but ive pondered a reciver hitch on both ends of the rig - OR a quick detach mechanism to quickly take a front mounted winch and make it rear mounted. Assuming both ends were wired with a plug of sorts might be a good way to save a chunk of change that could be used to buy other goodies?
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I'm new to wheelin and all ... so my ideas are not limited to rational thought... but ive pondered a reciver hitch on both ends of the rig - OR a quick detach mechanism to quickly take a front mounted winch and make it rear mounted. Assuming both ends were wired with a plug of sorts might be a good way to save a chunk of change that could be used to buy other goodies?
That is a good idea ive thought about it too. I know Warn sells the quick connect plugs an other companies too. Quick connect plugs for that size of wire is used in industrial electric fork trucks. And another thing you could do if you have a friend thats too cheap to buy a winch have him wire up his jeep to accept your winch. All in all to be honest...Im too lazy to want to keep swapping winch front to back. Also some times you might need to use both. One as an anchor the other pulling someone. Thanks Doris now Im going to build a new bumper and I might add a tire carrier for my tiny spare tire.
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Or like we had to do Chris, winch the front and come-a-long the back I'm sure Dave and Ken would have loved a second winch of dave's rig LOL
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That is a good idea ive thought about it too. I know Warn sells the quick connect plugs an other companies too. Quick connect plugs for that size of wire is used in industrial electric fork trucks. And another thing you could do if you have a friend thats too cheap to buy a winch have him wire up his jeep to accept your winch. All in all to be honest...Im too lazy to want to keep swapping winch front to back. Also some times you might need to use both. One as an anchor the other pulling someone. Thanks Doris now Im going to build a new bumper and I might add a tire carrier for my tiny spare tire.
Only thing that would make me nervous about having a winch hard wired in the back of the Jeep is if you ever had a short on the wire you could wind up burning the Jeep to the ground... Do they make a fuse big enough? you'd need like a 700 amp fuse
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Only thing that would make me nervous about having a winch hard wired in the back of the Jeep is if you ever had a short on the wire you could wind up burning the Jeep to the ground... Do they make a fuse big enough? you'd need like a 700 amp fuse
People have winches on the back all the time so I'm sure there is some proven method out there LOL
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Only thing that would make me nervous about having a winch hard wired in the back of the Jeep is if you ever had a short on the wire you could wind up burning the Jeep to the ground... Do they make a fuse big enough? you'd need like a 700 amp fuse
Starter silnoid, will do the job.
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I am down to go to this, got the day off this time.
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wow gonna be a big group, i can't wait
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AWESOME!

Keep you eye on the Sticky thread in the Oregon forum. I will post all the details on Monday.

Would you like to attend the Meeting on This Sunday as well? you are more then welcome too!
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I thought the fed laws read all NEW vehicles must have a third tail light. once "used" they don't have to work :P
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Okay I will subscribe to the sticky. Yes that would be awesome, but it looks like I work at the time of the meeting. Maybe next time on that one!

im 99% positive 1995 was the first year auto manufacture's were required to "add" the third light. If it is illegal to remove the third light I highly doubt a officer would pull you over and give you a ticket for that, or there are in a really bad mood.
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tail lights

I got this from the Oregon DOT website:::

Chapter 816 — Vehicle Equipment: Lights

2011 EDITION

816.320 Lighting equipment required for motor vehicles. This section establishes requirements for ORS 816.330. Where specific types of lighting equipment are mentioned by this section, those types are types described under ORS 816.040 to 816.290. Except where an exemption under ORS 816.340 specifically provides otherwise, a vehicle that does not comply with this section is in violation of ORS 816.330:
(1) A motor vehicle shall be equipped with all of the following in addition to any other requirements under this section:
(a) Headlights. Motor vehicles other than motorcycles or mopeds shall be equipped with at least two. Motorcycles or mopeds shall be equipped with at least one.
(b) Taillights. Motor vehicles other than motorcycles shall be equipped with two taillights. Motorcycles are only required to be equipped with one taillight.
(c) Registration plate light.
(d) Brake lights. Motor vehicles other than motorcycles and mopeds shall be equipped with at least two brake lights. Motorcycles and mopeds are only required to be equipped with one brake light.
(e) Turn signal lights.
(f) Rear reflectors


http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/816.html

OTHER EXCITING INFO FOR US:
6) Does my vehicle need mud flaps/mud guards?

Answer: Non commercial vehicles (under 8,000 lbs.) need fenders or mud guards (mud flaps) within 27 inches of the pavement behind all wheels. Commercial vehicles need fenders or mudguards (mud flaps) within 10 inches behind all wheels. (ORS 815.180)

Fenders and mud guards (mud flaps) must cover the entire tread width of the tire(s). (ORS 815.180)

7) How far can a vehicle sit off the ground before mud flaps are required?

Answer: For a vehicle that is less than 8,000 lbs the law states: "...fenders or mudguards must extend in full width from a point on the wheels that is above and forward of the center of the tire over a point at the rear of the wheel that is not more than 27 inches above the surface of the highway." ORS 815-180 (2) (c) The issue is not how far the truck can sit off the ground so much as making sure that fenders or mud flaps are in place not more than 27 inches from the surface of the highway.

8) Where do you measure that height from, lowest point of back bumper?

Answer: As stated above, you would measure the height from the ground and make sure it is not more than 27 inches.

9) How far are tires allowed to stick out from the side of a vehicle before you must get fender flares?

Answer: A fender or mudguard must cover the complete width of the tires tread. This is in ORS 815.180 (1) (a). The fender or mudguard must also be of sufficient size and constructed so that it is capable of deflecting or arresting any dirt, mud, water or other substance that may be picked up and carried on the wheels.
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Okay I will subscribe to the sticky. Yes that would be awesome, but it looks like I work at the time of the meeting. Maybe next time on that one!

im 99% positive 1995 was the first year auto manufacture's were required to "add" the third light. If it is illegal to remove the third light I highly doubt a officer would pull you over and give you a ticket for that, or there are in a really bad mood.
Dud why didn't you tell me who you where LOL
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Cause of that trip Im build a new rear bumber with a warn 8000lbs winch in the rear. Also hard wireing both winches so I dont have to get out of the jeep.
That trip destroyed my front passenger KM1 tire . I have the tire under warranty, so I'll be getting a new tire, a BFG KM2. Tread life of the other 3 tires are at 25% so I'll end up buying 3 new KM2's; hopefully, they'll be in for Saturday's run.

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