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Old 01-29-2013, 03:17 AM   #1
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TSF stock?

Just bought a 2012 Sahara. Running the stock wheels and tires 254/70/18 Bridgestone Dueler S/Ts. No lift of any kind. I'm wondering if there are beginner trails in the TSF that will accommodate this. I am working on getting some tires but the urge to get to playing is strong. Any advice is appreciated.

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Old 01-29-2013, 06:54 PM   #2
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I ran all the moderate and easy trails last Sumer with a stock jk and 255/75/17's. I'll let the people who run TSF on a regular basis to speak to the other trails as well as running in the winter

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Old 01-29-2013, 07:22 PM   #3
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Hood raiser all day both ways no problem. There are 2 sections. Easy and intermediate, but a stock Jk with any tires should be good.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:31 PM   #4
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Cedar tree is a good trail. I wouldn't go up alone this time of year though. And airing down your tires is one of the best things you can do to gain traction, but you have to be able to air them back up. I would look into on board air or a portable compressor.
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I used to run all over stock. Good idea to go with some others this time of year.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:03 AM   #6
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Where were you last weekend? You would have seen for yourself what your rig can or cannot do stock. The short answer is yes, you can do lots of trails at TSF with a stock rig. I would not go up there alone to find out this time of the year so again, where were you last weekend? LOL

As far as building up your first rig, just wait and hang out with people on this forum, you'll see stuff that may work for you, or may not be for you rather than throwing money into the wind. Many of us post runs and will try and be honest about what trails or what to expect- i.e. beginner, intermediate, or advanced runs. So you are more than welcome to tag along and give your rig a whirl. Just don't go out there alone this time of the year.

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Old 01-30-2013, 03:22 AM   #7
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Thanks for the info. Actually I work most weekends. I spent some time in the sand at Fort Stevenson though. I am currently talking to the finance department (the wife) about dropping my stock 18s and throwing on some 16" 33s. And I just found out someone I work with runs TSF all the time. I will keep myself posted and try to get in on some of the runs when posted here. I for sure wont go alone. At least not when it's this wet.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:50 AM   #8
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During the winter season, snow and especially icy conditions have the ability to turn the easiest of trails and even the forest service roads into difficult and challenged terrain. Safety should always be the rule of the day and one should always be prepared in terms of equipment, food, water, and communications while wheeling. It's always best to practice the buddy system as well.

That stated, a Jeep straight off the factory floor is one of the most capable vehicles built for off roading. I have taken my Jeep on stock suspension and 31" tires on most of the blue and black trails on TSF prior to upgrading my suspension and tires. On the linked map enclosed, your Jeep should be able to successfully transverse most if not all, of the green and blue class II trails. Again, your success will be dependent on the trail conditions. I have driven over the same trail during separate but distinct conditions i.e. dry, wet, muddy, snow, icy, day & night and the different conditions present different challenges to both driver and Jeep.

http://www.oregon.gov/odf/tillamooks...s/tsfohv09.pdf

Experience is the best method of knowing your Jeep and what it can do. Poke around and check out the various groups here in the southwest Washington and northwest Oregon areas. There are a lot of experienced wheelers who are willing to offer advice and who actively wheel and are open to having folks new to Jeeping, join in the run events.
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Thanks for the info. Actually I work most weekends. I spent some time in the sand at Fort Stevenson though. I am currently talking to the finance department (the wife) about dropping my stock 18s and throwing on some 16" 33s. And I just found out someone I work with runs TSF all the time. I will keep myself posted and try to get in on some of the runs when posted here. I for sure wont go alone. At least not when it's this wet.
Thanks again.
While it's your money, I'd hold off on the 33" tires and wheels. After you go out to Tillamook or wheeling anywhere, you will get the itch for a lift and bigger tires. With the JK's you can easily put 35-inch tires under them with a 2.5" budget lift or a more practical 4" lift. Again, just head out there and get a feel for your rig and what you want.
Having said that, I can head out to TSF on some Wednesdays if you are up for it. Just PM me or any of us and we can tell you when we are available to head out.

best wishes-
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Thanks SK. I will keep that in mind.
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you can always keep an eye on craigslist for Rubicon take off tires. The KM tires are pretty good and you can usually get them for a very good price.
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The Top three mistakes that new Jeep owners make.

1) They make decisions to quickly.
2) They do not understand the full effects of any modifications they do.
3) Do not sacrifice quality for cost.

I have been wheeling since the 70’s. The last 5 years I have been a trail guide for Jeep Jamboree USA. I encourage and teach new jeep owners to learn how to wheel off road with finesse. The new Jeep owner needs to understand how to use throttle control, understand their vehicles capabilities, understand how to adjust their tire pressures with the amount of weight they are carrying on each tire or axle, understand how articulation works and how to increase it, and most importantly, understand grip for the conditions your driving on and how to improve grip. Drive for a year and learn the above. Then decide what modifications you would like to do.
Have fun wheeling!
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:47 PM   #14
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I have a set of 5 BFG MTs stock off my 2103 Rubicon (255/75/17). If someone makes me an offer I can't refuse, they get them. They have only about 200 miles on them. Portland area.

I also have a stock Rubicon front bumper and air dam available. Same generous offer.

So go ahead, make my day....and yours too!

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