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Old 03-03-2012, 06:50 PM   #1
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What's your experience with Jeep West?

Has anybody had any experience dealing with Jeep West of Portland? If so, what is your take? Are they reliable? Are they reasonably priced?

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Old 03-03-2012, 08:00 PM   #2
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:16 AM   #3
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I guess that's a no. I've only seen the website, sry.
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Old 03-10-2012, 05:48 PM   #4
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They installed a repair kit on my son's XJ to repair a crack in his frame. It came out well, and they were willing to answer a lot of questions. I now have a 4 inch lift scheduled to be installed next week on my LJ. So far I have been happy with them and would recommend them.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:03 AM   #5
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Just had them regear my tj and install ox lockers, So far so good. I was referred to them by another guy on this site.
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:26 PM   #6
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Just got a call from them today, they wanted to check in and see if everything was ok and if i ever had any questions to just ask. Customer service is great.
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Had them replace my lower control arms, pinion seal, and som other maintenance stuff. They were great and about 1/3 the cost of Dick Heada in Vancouver!
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:17 PM   #8
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They are great. My brother and I have had them do rear gears on both our TJ's and their customer's service is second to none. We've even been wheeling with them.
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:46 PM   #9
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Just got my rear diff done last week at Jeepwest definitely a thumbs up
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:50 AM   #10
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There is a older thread where someone asked the same question. It has some good info..
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There is a older thread where someone asked the same question. It has some good info..
this is the thread April is referring too, it has a few differing opinions. As with any shop you need to do your research.

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I am going to resurrect this old thread...because well I get to add to my experience.

Here is my experience from the other thread that Doris mentioned.

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Towards the end of last year I was looking for a shop to do gears, sleeves and gussets on my Dana 30 for my 2007 Jeep JKU. I came across their ad on Craigslist and decided to do a little research. My search turned up that they were a "sponsored/recommended" shop for the SW Washington & NW Oregon Wrangler Forum Group. To me, that was a good sign and I decided to email Jeep West to get some quotes. We exchanged a few emails back-n-forth about what I was looking to have done, particularly what was involved in having my sleeves and gussets reinforced, as I didn't want to go to another shop to have them done, and basically pay for the same labor twice. I got my quotes back and they were one of the shops in the Portland area that were more affordable for gears; so I decided to go with them. I booked an appointment, and they told me it would be about a day to get everything done.

So, the day of my appointment came, I coordinated with my dad (who lives in Vancouver) to be able to drop my Jeep off and get a ride to work that day. We dropped the Jeep, and I left my keys with them. Jeep West was in contact with me throughout the day letting me know the status of my Jeep. They got done with the Jeep probably around 5:30pm that night, and told me they would be around for a half-n-hour more if I wanted to pick it up that night. Unfortunately, I didn't have a right out there at that time, so I told them I would pick it up the next day.

The next day I went out there and picked it up. They told me they took it for a couple spins to break in the gears, and everything checked out great. So, I got my keys and headed out to the Jeep. The Jeep drove great back to my house, not an issue.

The day after, I had to drive to work. I hoped in the Jeep and off I went to work. On my drive I have to go over the Ross Island Bridge, as we all know there are a couple of bumpy parts there, I have never had an issue with them. So, I drove over them like normal, except this time the Jeep didn't like them. It started to violently shake, and keep shaking. It was the dreaded death wobble. I had to pull over to the next safest place and stop the Jeep. Work was only a few blocks away so I figured I could make it there just fine. I got to work and (called or emailed, I can't remember which one) and told them about my issue. They told me they torqued everything back to spec, but I could come back out and they would check it out for me. Well, I didn't have time during the day any day that week so i figured I would check it out for myself.

That night I got home, and loosened the typical components apart on the Jeep that cause DW and re-torqued everything. When for another spin, and got DW again. So, phase II of troubleshooting started; I took my track bar off and checked it out, both of the bushings were shot. I called up the manufacturer of the track bar and ordered new bushings for it. (Mind you this track bar was less than a year old). It took about a week for the bushings to come in and get the track bar re-installed.

Fast forward to the next week. My wife and I were heading to Long Beach, WA for a late 1-year anniversary weekend. With the Death Wobble behind us we were confidant on taking the Jeep there. We made it there in one piece! Heading back to Portland on late Sunday my wife was driving the Jeep. Going over the Astoria bridge she said my "brakes felt squishy" I told her she was crazy and didn't believe her. Once we got off the bridge, my brake light came on. We made it to the Safeway parking lot and I jumped out of the Jeep to take it a look. Front brakes looked good, made it to the back, passenger side check! Driver side, uh-oh! Both of the bolts holding my caliper were missing!

Now mind you this last summer, I replaced brake pads and rotors. I took those same bolts off to do my rotors. But when I put them back on, I sealed them up with some blue locktite and double checked them about 100 miles later, and they were torqued to spec. My only assumption is that when they were doing my rear gears, either the bolts were not torque to spec or maybe not even installed. Needless to say, my wife was pissed and scared to drive home on 3 brakes. I called my dad, and he drove his truck and trailer all the way from Vancouver to Astoria and towed us home. Over the next couple of days I had to go around to the Jeep dealerships and find a new caliper and all of the other parts I lost. The Jeep is all put back together and works fine now!

I never called Jeep West about the brakes. Between the track bar and the brakes there were too many things that made me scratch my head. I decided I was going to do it myself to make sure it was done right.

So, that's my story. You can form your own opinion from it. I know I have read some posts on this forum of some guys who have had successful interactions with Jeep West. I have a buddy and recommended Jeep West to him for his gear job as well. He went there and had issues with the gear install. He's on this forum, maybe he will chime in as well.

If you have any other questions feel free to drop me a PM.
Today Chris Neiss and myself started working on replacing my front axle seals since I had a leak. As we were taking everything apart, Chris noticed something with my axle sleeves weren't completely welded in.

Let's back up a little bit. I have the Evo Magnum 44 sleeves for my JK. To install them, you have to drill a series of holes in the axle tubes. Then slide the sleeves in and weld the axle tubes and axle sleeves together.

Coming back up to present time, Chris noticed that one of the holes wasn't welded up. Once I got home I decided to crawl under the JK and take a closer look. The directions call for 9 holes to be drilled in the bottom of the axle tubes. 4 of them were welded, the other 5 look like they were drilled and left to rust.

If you are down there, why not welded the other 5? You drilled for them? I even gave Jeep West hard copies for the instructions, soft copies, and also emailed them a YouTube video of the install and they couldn't even do it correctly!

You know what? Why I am complaining....by them cutting corners on everything they were able to spur the economy.

I had to buy a new brake caliper from Chrysler since they failed to bolt mine in. I had to buy a bushing rebuild kit because they failed to un-torque mine when they installed everything. Now I get to pay somebody to finish the job that I paid them to do. Because I don't trust them to even finish welding 5 holes again.

Thanks Jeep West for dicking me over yet again!
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mudb8 is now working at Jeeps West. If I were to trust someone east of the I-5, it would be mudb8, he's a Jeep guru and master fabricator. Hopefully Jeeps West treats mudb8 well, as he may be able to turn some of the negativity around...
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Sound like they have really gone to sh*t. Truck driver Chuck went there to have a drop bracket installed and jeep west didn't even readjust his shift linkage. He was stuck in 4hi the entire day when we went to tsf on the 11th. Mind you its a pretty simple fix but they should have taken care of that while they worked on the jeep.
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I'm a car guy as most know. I really suggest anyone that has had faulty work done at Jeep West call Nik and ask to get their Jeep fixed. JW has a first class jeep guy / fabricator now (Mudb8) Shouldn't be a problem if he cares about his customers.
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I'm a car guy as most know. I really suggest anyone that has had faulty work done at Jeep West call Nik and ask to get their Jeep fixed. JW has a first class jeep guy / fabricator now (Mudb8) Shouldn't be a problem if he cares about his customers.
I took mine back because they set my gears up wrong. They were screaming at anything over 15mph. Jeep West sold me additive for $50 and told me the noise would go away in 50 miles. I took it to another shop and had them diagnose the problem. They had set the backlash to close and now my gears were broken in wrong.. I brought it back to them a 3rd time. Their solution was to put to much backlash so the noise would go away. Now I have a sloppy differential and it makes noise.

I had them weld my long arm brackets in place, they missed the upper control arm brackets..

I cross threaded a nut and bolt and asked them to cut it off, their solution was to weld it in place.

I was really disappointed. I had hoped they were my new found go to place for installing things I didnt want to deal with on my own.

Maybe I should thank them for re-enforcing my distrust and resolve to be the only one turning wrench's on my baby.. I think its time I bought a welder and learn how to do everything myself.
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I'm a car guy as most know. I really suggest anyone that has had faulty work done at Jeep West call Nik and ask to get their Jeep fixed. JW has a first class jeep guy / fabricator now (Mudb8) Shouldn't be a problem if he cares about his customers.
I agree with James' statement. If somebody does experience faulty work, or something not completed they should call the shop and have them fix it.

They may now have a first class Jeep guy/fabricator in Mudb8. But they have lost my trust as a shop. Even to the point to where if I were to take my Jeep back there to get things "fixed" I will still have a nauseating feeling in my stomach driving my Jeep home.

I would probably feel differently if there was a one-off issue. But having 3 separate incidents, 2 of which could have caused me to get into an accident I will never be going there again.

Much like Cold, I will learn to do the work myself. Plus there is an awesome community of Jeepers out there that will help me along the way.
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I took mine back because they set my gears up wrong. They were screaming at anything over 15mph. Jeep West sold me additive for $50 and told me the noise would go away in 50 miles. I took it to another shop and had them diagnose the problem. They had set the backlash to close and now my gears were broken in wrong.. I brought it back to them a 3rd time. Their solution was to put to much backlash so the noise would go away. Now I have a sloppy differential and it makes noise.

I had them weld my long arm brackets in place, they missed the upper control arm brackets..

I cross threaded a nut and bolt and asked them to cut it off, their solution was to weld it in place.

I was really disappointed. I had hoped they were my new found go to place for installing things I didnt want to deal with on my own.

Maybe I should thank them for re-enforcing my distrust and resolve to be the only one turning wrench's on my baby.. I think its time I bought a welder and learn how to do everything myself.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not a JW groupie, they have never touched my jeep. I have a few shops I use if I can't fix it myself.

If you already paid once for a gear install and it's not set up right it's only a matter of time before it goes KABOOM , then you will be paying another shop to do it right. I would call Nik and see if he is willing to make it right. Not so he can save face but so you don't have to pay twice.
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Problem with gears if there not set up right they don't break in right. After there not broke in right they wont be able to be set up right. Not sure how they could screw up the backlash on a JK differential. They are the easiest to set up. You dont even have to pull the carrier bearings off. Cold theres a chance your gears wont last long before they go kaboom. When I did Chris Neiss gears they were the easy to set up, once i figured how to crush the crush sleeve. Compared to my old D30/D44 combo. Jsears get a hold of me and Ill get what you needed all welded up.
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Problem with gears if there not set up right they don't break in right. After there not broke in right they wont be able to be set up right. Not sure how they could screw up the backlash on a JK differential. They are the easiest to set up. You dont even have to pull the carrier bearings off. Cold theres a chance your gears wont last long before they go kaboom. When I did Chris Neiss gears they were the easy to set up, once i figured how to crush the crush sleeve. Compared to my old D30/D44 combo. Jsears get a hold of me and Ill get what you needed all welded up.
Man I wish I still needed to get it welded I ended up paying a muffler shop $100 an hour to weld it up when I had them weld up my exhaust.

The backlash needed to be something like between .006 and .01 and they had it at .004 . I don't know what it is now but I know the gears are broken in and they whine when they heat up. I bought good quality gears from yukon and I am hoping they will hold up. I am planning on upgrading my axles to chromoly shafts sometime this year and hopefully check out my gears and maybe change them out if they are to bad. It depends on how brave I am or what help I can round up. ..... and that's just the rear. The front was never adjusted so its probably still at .004. I don't know what long term effects that will have since it is the front and its only used off road. I do know that means the oil may not be able to properly penetrate between the teeth.

As for Jeep West, I would expect them to replace my gears (with what I provided) and install them properly. But since they didn't do that when I actually paid them or when I brought it back 2 additional times, why would I trust them to do it right for free and certainly now after I have publicly vented? Besides I don't think they would even care that there are couple of ticked off people out there. They have there fan base and loyal following that won't be effected by anything I have to say.

It would be nice to not have to pay to fix it. However I only took it back to them the first two times because my wife wouldn't leave me alone... She refused to let me pay a pro to fix it when they should have done it right the first time.
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Man I wish I still needed to get it welded I ended up paying a muffler shop $100 an hour to weld it up when I had them weld up my exhaust.
I had a Currie track bar bracket that needed to be welded to my differential. I don't have a welder so I took it to a muffler shop to get it welded. Flash forward a week later and I show my cousin who is a fabricator the job the muffler shop did and he told me that the muffler shop didn't use the correct amount of heat. Apparently the weld wasn't set properly and any type of stress would cause the bracket to immediately break free . I was further educated that the type of metal and thickness that a muffler shop welds (thin sheet metal) is very different compared to how thick a differential tube is. The differential requires a higher degree of heat to weld and set properly .

Hope this wasn't your experience...
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why would I trust them to do it right for free and certainly now after I have publicly vented?
Let me google that for you

They sell a lot of jeeps on ebay to buyers all over the country. There is also a lot of locals looking for a shop to do work for them and will use google. If they google jeep west portland this thread is front page on google. That would be a damn good reason to make things right hoping you will come back to this thread and say they did.
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I had a good experience when I was short on time, JW installed an Aussie locker in my D30 front axle on my black LJ. I recently sold it to my brother, so I would hear about any problems.. And I would not hesitate to call Nik if I had a problem with it. Remember Mudb8 is now working for JW. It says to me Nik is working hard at putting together an "improved team" for sure.. And being a good manager that's what you do. JSears and Cold I hear what both of you are saying... I would at least call Nik and see what he thinks about the situations you both have had. But that's just me.
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I personally called and had long discussions at least 4 times with Nik about my gears. I had to pay $65 to have another company diagnose the problem that Nik said didn't exist. I had to ring it out of him that they didn't read the directions. I had to call Yukon and I called HIS supplier and gather the correct data and convince him that I was not an idiot and I was not going to be screwed without some sort of fight. Every interaction caused more and more loss of confidence. I flat out said "YOU RUINED MY GEARS I WANT NEW ONES!" he said "Let me see if I can fix it, you have high quality gears, I'm sure they are fine." He swore it was great and sent me on my way... The rear is whinny and sloppy and who knows what condition the front is in.

I am replying with this because I want to make it clear that I had talked to Nik and I am not just shying away and firing from my arm chair. I am just tired of arguing with Nik and I don't feel he will stand behind his work any more then he all ready has.

As long as it goes well everybody is happy and smiling. As soon as it goes bad the frowns show up and customer service is less then stellar.
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