Id like to just say that this is my first jeep and I love it!! I have A new found respect my Jeep TJ. It got me home during the snow storm. Never slip or slid at all and I was able to go where no one vehicles were able to go. I went pretty much wherever I wanted to go in and around cars stranded. I'll never go without owning Jeep again. I really like this forum and hope to be on more.