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Old 06-01-2013, 08:07 PM   #1
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Testing the water...

After I get back from Washington State in August, I am going to lift my 2013 10A Unlimited. The key here is that I would really like to do it myself (with help from friends...). The kit I am going with is very complicated to install in that it requires the removal of all the frame control arm mounts and the welding of the new ones (I'm going with either the 4" or the 6" (leaning towards the 6") TeraFlex long arm LCG kit. Is there anyone out there that would be interested in helping me??? Anyone have a lift, welder, acetylene torch???

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Old 06-01-2013, 08:55 PM   #2
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I would like to help for sure. I do not have any of the above.

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I might get in on that action sounds like more than one day huh moses
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:10 PM   #4
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I might get in on that action sounds like more than one day huh moses
TF has a about this instal and the mot time consuming thing is the cutting, grinding, and welding... Theirs site says it takes ~14-18 hours ... So I would say that it would take a good 2 days.... (I'll buy the food )
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:13 PM   #5
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I got some one u can talk to coming tomorrow he owns a shop up there and does lifts everyday. I talk to him about what u wanna do ur gonna need new drive shafts too. I'll introduce u tomorrow he coming with us. Bit he's the guy to talk too. Been doing lifts and jeeps for 30 something years.
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:31 PM   #6
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CAPT D u already seen how capable a stock jeep is there is no way i would go that extreme with a 6"lift let alone go to cutting and welding on a new jeep,i would just stick a nice 4" coil spring lift with 35's and let her eat.....IMO though
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:00 AM   #7
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CAPT D u already seen how capable a stock jeep is there is no way i would go that extreme with a 6"lift let alone go to cutting and welding on a new jeep,i would just stick a nice 4" coil spring lift with 35's and let her eat.....IMO though
I hear ya, and you are right the Rubi is very capable... With that said we want to go with 37's... Now I understand we don't "really" need them for this area, but there is a big difference between need and want. With that said, I considered the spring lift but there are some inherent issues with a 4" spring lift the biggest is the fact that it's difficult, if not impossible, to get a good alignment. Secondly, this will be Jess's DD and as such it needs to handle as well if not better than stock and the only way that I have found that will accomplish this is with a long arm kit. To that end I narrowed my choices down to three options. First option was the TeraFlex kit which I think will give us the best street ride and a tough kit for the trails (best of both words). Second option was the Rubicon Express and what I didn't like about it was the fact that you have to drill 8 large holes in the frame and there is little or no welding. This kit I believe would give a good ride on the road but wouldn't be as tough on the trails (and I have heard it squeaks...). Third choice was the Rock Krawler 5.5" long arm kit with Coil overs. This kit is geared towards extremely hard wheeling and I think that although it would be the best off road, it would be less than desirable on road.

Now down to the 4" or 6" lift... The 4" lift will allow me to fit the 37's and make for a great kit, but our plan is to make this a dedicated off road Jeep in about 2 years. Once the Jeep becomes a dedicated wheeler we are planning to go with 38's (most likely) at are at least 14.5" wide. In order to do this we will have to have the 6" lift. So we need to decide if we want to get the 6" now or the 4" and upgrade later...

Lastly (and sorry this is such a long response) is why 37's... We believe that if we had a standard JK (non-unlimited) we would have 35's, but due to the break over angle we feel that we need the extra hight to be even close to the same capability (and they simply look bad@ss ).
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If you have an unlimited budget, by all means, turn it into a buggy. However, you got some bad intel there. It's not impossible to get a good alignment with 37's and a regular spring lift kit - in fact many run it just fine. Any off-road shop with good laser alignment equipment should be able to set your caster and align your tires. (Mine was a spring lift, but a kit that also replaced all the control arms and sway bars.)

What other brands have you looked at in your research? These online forums tend to steer towards companies that been around for a long while and/or paid huge amounts of money for advertising at one point to buy some loyal followers.

Have you checked out kits from MetalCloak or GenRight?

Also, I can tell you now 37s make a lot of things in this area look easy. A full on buggy wold make it almost TOO easy - not to mention it'd be silly to trailer a buggy to do forest service roads.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:15 AM   #9
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Let me clarify something because I probably used the wrong word. When the Jeep becomes a "dedicated" off road machine what I really should have was was that it will become our weekend fun Jeep. In other words, it will remain street legal and not be driven as a daily driver, so no future buggy here.

As for kits, I'll be honest that I really only considered those 3 brands. I did look into MC last night and I really like their product. What I didn't like about their product was that in order to put 37's or larger on the Jeep I would need to run their fenders, which in my opinion, are hideous. I have not looked into, or heard of for that matter, the GenRight kit but I will look into it.

Let me also say that I have not bought my kit yet and I am open to suggestions. I want the best possible product that will give me what I want, which is a great highway ride, great trail capability, and the ability for me to stuff the tire size I want under it.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:54 AM   #10
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Go with Rock Krawler. They are the BEST. I run them on both of my Jeeps. They drive great on the road and you can beat on them off road. 3.5" is all you need for 37's. one of the big key factors on any lift for good street ride is a nice shock. I run Fox on my 4 door and Bilstean on my 2 door.

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