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Old 02-04-2012, 06:11 PM   #1
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Help needed answering wrangler question

I have a 1997 jeep wrangler sahara with a inline 6 4.0 automatic.
It has a 6inch rough country lift with 33 inch tires and it takes a long time to shift to second gear. I was wondering if there were any solutions to this problem?
Any answers are appreciated. Thanks for your time!

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Old 02-04-2012, 08:03 PM   #2
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Torque converter could be bad. Is the tranny fluid red or brown ?

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Old 02-04-2012, 08:18 PM   #3
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Know your gear ratio? 3.07 would cause that on 33" tires even if the transmission was in perfect condition.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:23 PM   #4
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I have a 1997 jeep wrangler sahara with a inline 6 4.0 automatic.
It has a 6inch rough country lift with 33 inch tires and it takes a long time to shift to second gear. I was wondering if there were any solutions to this problem?
Any answers are appreciated. Thanks for your time!
Long time is relative, approximate RPM might help to understand the problem
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:33 PM   #5
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I acually just bought it and it's in the shop getting brakes so I dont know all that yet but the only thing I know it it takes a long time to shift from 1st gear to second gear but when it shifts gears after 2nd then it shifts perfect
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:30 PM   #6
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I acually just bought it and it's in the shop getting brakes so I dont know all that yet but the only thing I know it it takes a long time to shift from 1st gear to second gear but when it shifts gears after 2nd then it shifts perfect
Again, "long time" is relative. Do you mean it revs high before shifting, or accelerates slowly in 1st? Or that it takes along time BETWEEN gears, after shifting out of 1st, before 2nd grabs?

The 97 auto is only a 3 speed; 1st gear has to cover a pretty wide speed band. It would feel much worse on 3.07 or 3.23 gears w/33" tires.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:03 PM   #7
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It revs to a high level before shifting to second and I was told I had to change the gears and I really just can't afford that and I was also told the transmission filter may need to be cleaned but I was wondering if there was a way around it
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:08 PM   #8
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How many miles on it? You could have the fluid flushed/changed to maybe help a bit, but it's not recommended to flush if it hasn't been done by 100k. More chance of breaking some crud loose and pumping it further into the transmission where it shouldn't be.

Sounds like you may just have too low of diff gears for your tires. Not much you can do there other than re-gear or try to drive down hill alot...
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Would it hurt if I don't change the gears?
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:31 PM   #10
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It'll be slow off the line, and more likely to overheat (transmission) than if you had the proper gears. Also your speedometer will probably read ~10% slower than your actual speed.

That said, the 32rh transmission seemed to be much less prone to overheating than the 42rh, so you should be OK from a mechanical standpoint.
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I just flushed the transmission today because the fluid was black and now it shifts alot better
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Did you change the filter.
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I just flushed the transmission today because the fluid was black and now it shifts alot better
I'm going to be BLUNT, and your NOT going to like hearing it.
BUT somebody has to say it like it is.
First ~~ All you have done is put a TEMPORARY BAND AID on the Jeep.
The only thing the Flush has done was to put New Clean Fluid in the
Transmission, on top of a Dirty Filter.
Second ~~ Your running 33" tires on a Stock Geared Differential, '3.07',
THAT puts too much strain on the Transmission, causing it to slip / over
heat / burn the Bands and Clutch Packs up. Same as like if you were to
RIDE your Brakes all day, when ever you drive, they would heat up and
Burn down to nothing until you wouldn't have any Brakes.
The ONLY THING you have done, is delay the inevitable from happening
for a short period of time. AND IT WILL HAPPEN, just when, is a roll of
the Dice.
Your options are a couple of things. Continue till you have to rebuild or
replace the Transmission, Decrease your Tire size to a MAX of 31", or
Re-Gear your Differentials - BOTH Front and Rear.
You choose the first option, you will still need to do one of the others
or you will just have a repeat failure of the Transmission.
Jeeps are Great Vehicles, and you made a good choice in selecting one
over any other make / model. But also, they are NOT indestructible.
They will FAIL if set up, or modified incorrectly and expected to perform
without any issues.
You asked, "Is there any way around it?" Yes as stated above only.
You also stated "I was told I had to change the gears and I really just
can't afford that". Unfortunately, it costs Money to operate ANY Motor
Vehicle, and the biggest expense is up keep and preventative Maintenance.
NOBODY likes to SPEND MONEY on what they can't see, but if you want
it to be reliable, it has to be done. If for whatever reason that can't be
done, then maybe a different choice in a Vehicle should be considered.
I know you've heard the saying "Don't drink Champagne if all you can
afford is Beer". Same holds true for a Jeep.
Don't think I'm getting on your case or anything of the sort, that's NOT
the intentions here in the least bit. I don't know you #1, don't know
your circumstances #2, and only giving you MY OPINION based on what
information you have given.
Most of us feel your PAIN, and hope your able to work your way through
it in the least expencive and correct way that you can.
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Thanks Coyote for the help. It's not what I want to hear but it's what I need to hear. I will probably be getting the gears switched but I just need to find out what gear ratio I need
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What are the suggested gears to get? Oh, if it matters I have an 02 w/ auto, 85k. Mine isn't like described above but wanted to make my transmission last and make my speedo correct as well as hope for a little better millage if there is such a thing.

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