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2018 JL Wrangler LED Headlights and Fender Lights Spied!

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:puke:

I sure hope that those things on the fenders are driving lights or DRL's. I certainly would not to see the fender mounted directionals ever come back again, like they were on the TJ.

The directionals are suppose to be round, and located on the grill just below the headlights. No exceptions permitted.
 
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Odd that they look so white in this picture, but I am pretty sure those are indeed the marker lights. Link for proof (one of the pictures shows the JL with the right turn signal on): 2018 Jeep Wrangler Two Door Spotted for the First Time » AutoGuide.com News

I'm not sure how this would make it any more difficult to replace the fender flares as the JK also has marker lights on the fender flares. It looks like that light may wrap around the fender flare to be visible from both the sides and the front, as opposed to having 2 separate sets of lights like on the JK.
 
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I'm still wanting Amber signals on the rear of the Wrangler like they have on the export models.

I know it's sacrilege to many, but I want to be more visible, especially in snow & fog.
 
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I actually prefer amber rear signals. It doesn't make sense to me to have the signals be the same color as the brakes, especially when it comes to marker lights because sometimes it takes me a second to realize I am seeing marker lights, not the brake lights.
 
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Yeah it's a good mod to do, did it on the Rubi, haven't gotten around to it on the A-X.
Definitely helps make you more visible from the side, especially when moving into a middle lane that someone on the far side might also want to share.

However to AY's comment, because this will be the only front signal lights, a fender mod would now have to account for that whereas in the past it didn't if you didn't care about losing just the markers which aren't required by law, whereas of course signal lights somewhat are (not sure if you can still opt for hand signals and a hand latern/torch at night, you Yanks have very weird and wildly differing state laws). ;)
 
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Until I actually see the front fenders/turn signals I can't really form an opinion. At first blush I don't care for them. They would more easily get damaged on the trail. LEDs would be more expensive to replace. Replacement fenders will likely have some kind of method to change to something else.

I am colorblind and do NOT care for amber rear turn signals. They look like brake lights are on...all the time.

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"I actually prefer amber rear signals. It doesn't make sense to me to have the signals be the same color as the brakes, especially when it comes to marker lights because sometimes it takes me a second to realize I am seeing marker lights, not the brake lights."
This hesitation would seem to be a benefit if it makes people pause a bit to become more aware of the situation.
 
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LEDs would be more expensive to replace.
Not once they become the norm. LEDs are cheap to make, their premium price right now is mainly related to them being a custom part. Most places like walmart sell them for the similar price (10.98-12.98/pr). And from Amazon they are within pennies of each other.
So while they are 'more expensive' it's essentially a rounding error difference for each, and they should last much longer, meaning by the time you do replace them you may have already had to buy 1 or 2 pairs of those lower visibility incandescent bulbs, moving the savings in favour of the LEDs.

I am colorblind and do NOT care for amber rear turn signals. They look like brake lights are on...all the time.
How does colour have anything to do with them being on/off? In what scenario are amber turn signals on 'all the time'?
The argument is fallacious, your issue is with blink pattern or with on/off settings, and if you know the difference between the Export and the N.American pattern, you'd know that the N.Am. pattern actually shares the brake lights while the Export models add a specific separate light, which is why the wiring isn't the same and you can't swap Euro for N.Am.
So what you're complaining about would be solved by having a distinct turn light.

This hesitation would seem to be a benefit if it makes people pause a bit to become more aware of the situation.
Hesitation or unnecessary stopping isn't a good thing, especially on highways and rural roads where there is less road illumination detail, and often the only indication of driver intent is those rear lights not the ability to see where the road splits or there's an intersection.

Indecision and confusion in general are bad things. Making it perfectly clear the intention of the driver is best for everyone, so providing more information rather than less is a good thing.

However, most importantly, NHTSA shows that amber rear turn signals improve safety, especially on crashes of such a speed/severity that they result in injuries.

Both NHTSA and the IIHS recommend all mfrs switch to Amber rear turn signals with NHTSA submitting the requirement in their latest regulation update to conform with the NCAP norm because they know from testing that it's a better system than sharing not only the same colour, but the same bulb as the brake light.
 
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I liked it better when every headlight on the road was the same colour temperature. I find all the new light colours distracting, and ugly, frankly. They are nice on an individual car, but when you're looking down the highway at dozens of cars, it's like visual diarrhea. The warmer colour is also less irritating when driving for long periods at night.
 
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The above is a local jeep.


The white lights on the fenders are already an factory option here in the Dubai for the last couple of years.
I can tell you they look horrible and usually come on the Sahara. They are not directional lights though only DRL
oh wild, this is the first I've ever seen. great post!
 
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What are your thoughts on aftermarket options/mods for the new JL?

-Jake[/QUOTE]

Hello Jake, Didn't think about it like that, what else can you get on there?

not a big fun of lighting my jeep up like a Christmas tree but a directional terrain camera in the front linked to the screen so you can navigate difficult obstacle. putting your tires exactly in the right spot
 
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What are your thoughts on aftermarket options/mods for the new JL?

-Jake
Hello Jake, Didn't think about it like that, what else can you get on there?

not a big fun of lighting my jeep up like a Christmas tree but a directional terrain camera in the front linked to the screen so you can navigate difficult obstacle. putting your tires exactly in the right spot[/QUOTE]

As for aftermarket mods/options for the JL I'd say they're as endless as they've been for Jeep models in previous years. Once we begin to get a better idea of the body style and attributes, then we'll really be able to see what our options for customization are!

As for the LED fender light options. I would say the only option to use the wiring for would be for more lighting configurations considering the lights I assume just run right in line with the factory switch and relay system. Trying to wire any other kind of accessory with the LED wiring won't function properly and could also run the risk of causing the wiring system to fail.
 
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Turnbull, you have definitely gone off the deep end with this DRL topic. If you don't like DRL just because, or that you want a brand new 1940s Jeep, then say it. Nobody is going to care but you going on about how, "dangerous" they are in bright conditions (WTF?????) and in other _____ conditions, c'mon man you're grasping at straws here. I would love to get into a discussion with you about it, but I don't want to quote and reply to you 108 times.

And for the record, every car I have ever drove kills DRLs when the parking brake is on. Sometimes you have to set the parking brake (even one notch will do), turn the key on, and DRLs will stay off until you release the parking brake. There's your, "stealth mode, parking lot cops being blinded by DRLs and shooting people" scenario.

I can honestly say I've never, ever, seen an issue where DRLs had a negative impact for the 16 years I've been driving; bright daylight, overcast, thunderstorms, blizzards, hurricanes/tropical storms, lunar eclipses, ect. Unless you consider the 1 in 100,000 cars that have only have DRLs on at night (usually these people figure it out really quick). DRLs are floodlights, so therefore you only get somewhat blinded within 20'. I've had issues with high beams on or improperly adjusted headlights wwaaayyyy more than anything light related.
 
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Turnbull, you have definitely gone off the deep end with this DRL topic. If you don't like DRL just because, or that you want a brand new 1940s Jeep, then say it. Nobody is going to care but you going on about how, "dangerous" they are in bright conditions (WTF?????) and in other _____ conditions, c'mon man you're grasping at straws here. I would love to get into a discussion with you about it, but I don't want to quote and reply to you 108 times.
I don't know why you are talking to me. I am not the one trying to force useless features on other people. I am saying if you want it, that's great, but don't make me get it as well. I don't see how I am "going off the deep end" when all I am saying is I don't want it. I am not trying to convince anyone not to get something that they may want.

No I don't want a "brand new 1940s Jeep." I feel like the TJ was underpowered; why the hell would I want a 1940s Jeep?
 
#56 ·
on the car I have in italy (close too Sicily, same bright day light as Virginia) I have DDLs, and it's a 2009 alfa romeo. I you want to stealth yourself off you can disable them through the board computer, there is an option for that in almost all the cars with DRLs I ever drove. if you turn them off, in Europe you got to turn front lights low beam on when driving on a highway, cause the law says you gotta run with lights on no matter what when driving on a highway (don't know if in Canada is the same). So ddls were introduced right for the porpose of forgetting turning lights on during day time.
 
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Hmmm... Maybe there will be a mod for little round signal lights to be added to the empty space beneath the headlights, similar to one I've seen on a few TJ's when they get flat flares. Sucks that I'd have to do that though. Sucks that they probably put those back on the fenders. Other than that, the JL might be ok, I've liked many things I've been hearing about it... just needs that mod to freshen up the face.
 
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