Ok, I talked with the North River Rangers District (Responsible for Flagpole Knob and surrounding area). Me and a few others are going to head down there and have a sit down with them to see how we can help them and hopefully how they can help us offroaders. I will have a copy of the MVUM and we will follow that as best we can with the trails considered off limits not having signs. That brings me to my next point, If you go out to George Washington National Forest to offroad please do not destroy the signs that they put up. It is going to cause us to lose the privilege to use this land. If you see anyone else out there destroying the signs please take down their license plate number and inform the Rangers office of what you seen. If you cant find the number for them please contact me and I will get you in touch with them.
Also talking with the rangers, if we have more than 10 vehicles then we will need to get a special permit. I will be calling the gentleman in charge of that area to get the exact information. If it cost money, we will split into groups and find a center point for us to meet at as an entire group.
Ill will post again tomorrow with the information i receive. Please do not let this deter you from joining us. I promise you that I will do everything in my power to properly inform you on what is off limits and make it as enjoyable as possible.
Awesome ideas! I've never been out there, but I'm one of the guys KG Strummer is bringing along. Just got my 2000 in October, so this will be my first real outing (which means I won't be much help in the knowledge dept. of course). If I had known what a great community surrounded having a Jeep, I would have bought one years ago...
I will add my info to the list. I will be wheeling my 08 JKU Sahara bone stock (it did come with a few skid plates so that is a plus). I do have some recovery gear (tow strap, comealong, shovel, ect). I have wheeled Peters Mill and Taskers a few times but this will be my first trip to Flagpole.
I am excited to get out with a large group. Reaper thanks for talking to the rangers for us all, I too want to do this legally to make up for all those few who give us Jeepers a bad name. If there is anything I can do to help PM me. Thanks!
I have a winch and some recovery gear, but this will be my first real outing with my new rig as well, so I don't know the trail(s) there at all. All of my previous wheeling in my older Jeeps was very easy stuff. I know that Flagpole isn't difficult at all, but I definitely hope we have a few more experienced folks going who can lead, spot, and supervise recoveries...
I've got a winch and quite a bit of recovery equipment. None of the year round GWNF forest roads I've been on require a winch in the course of normal wheeling. I have GPS waypoints and tracks for that entire area. Happy to share.
As for bringing a dog, I don't see any issues with it. You just have to abide by state law. I would keep the dog on a leash so it doesn't run off, guarentee that if it does it wont last long between the bears, mountain lions, and coyotes.
As for the list, I will put out a trip plan the week before the ride. When I put that out, I will ask who is coming and what equipment they have. I will then put a list together and figure out the groups best as possible. As for recovery on flagpole, there is always a need for recovery gear, but I have been to flagpole twice completely stock and we haven't needed it. That was also with about three inches of snow that we were blazing. The most important recovery technique is common sense, I will be leading this group and I will be making sensible decisions.
If you are completely stock please do not be concerned about coming along. I promise you that I will not put you outside a comfortable zone. Although I you choose to push it quite a few of us can help you along.
I appologize for the ranting, but when people start posting oh my God we need recovery gear, it tends to scare people new to the Jeep community off. I have been to rausch creek and completed trails 10x harder then flagpole completely stock.