Just got back from Red Cloud and all I can say it WOW! That is the best thing around here! Definitely some pucker factor, be prepared to be stuck, and you really want a winch per group or more! We were fortunate enough to have Yan from 10-8 tour 8+ of us around and it was an absolute blast! Can't thank him enough. There are some serious challenges there and I highly recommend it to everyone! But be careful! These trails can really test you!