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Welcome. Been following the attenuator thread from inception.

I'm in the market for a tie rod and drag link. If I can make myself wait the Yeti setup will be high on my list. Love the fact that there are no jam nuts.
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Welcome. Been following the attenuator thread from inception.

I'm in the market for a tie rod and drag link. If I can make myself wait the Yeti setup will be high on my list. Love the fact that there are no jam nuts.
Are you running a DL flip?
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Are you running a DL flip?
No. I considered it but I'm not experiencing any issues that would call for a DL flip. Looks like Steersmarts will offer both over and under knuckle.
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No. I considered it but I'm not experiencing any issues that would call for a DL flip. Looks like Steersmarts will offer both over and under knuckle.
Yes, AND both drill and a no drill rod end for the knuckle. Nobody's done this .. Steer smarts patented the reverse taper joint.
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Hello and thanks to everyone on the forum. It's a pleasure being accepted as a supporting member to a wonderful organization like the Jeep Wrangler Forum.
I hope to see a few of you at the November SEMA show where we introduce our new YETI series of linkages.
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Welcome. Been following the attenuator thread from inception.

I'm in the market for a tie rod and drag link. If I can make myself wait the Yeti setup will be high on my list. Love the fact that there are no jam nuts.
Amphibole; You sound like you have a lot of steering linkage experience. Jam nuts don't work as well as clamps. Jam nuts require a lot of torque and can work loose under high loads. Clamps are the only way to engineer a TRUE heavy duty linkage.
Our YETI series linkage is the most durable and strongest linkage every built for a JK. And, you don't need to drill the knuckle to install the high steer top mount linkage. Thanks to our patent pending reverse taper mount, the complete linkage installation is 100 percent bolt on.
However, we do offer a top mount that will fit the guys that have already drilled knuckles to the 7/8 dia. and installed the bushing the supports the ball stud.
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Amphibole; You sound like you have a lot of steering linkage experience.
If by "a lot of steering linkage experience" you mean "complete jeep noob that agonizes for months and looses sleep over parts purchases while probably completely over analyzing all possible options" then why yes, you would be correct sir.

Seriously though, I've only had my JKU a year. I do as much work as I can myself and I try to be pretty thorough when looking at options. My comment about disliking jam nuts was based on my experience adjusting control arms and track bars and very nearly breaking my hand doing so. That and I'm always worried about them working loose. Also, I really hate the idea of drilling or reaming my knuckles.

Steering linkage happens to be pretty close to the top of my todo list so I have looked at everything that is out there many times, learned about things like Ackerman geometry that I wish I never knew about and so on. I'm sure you know who you're competing with here, some of the best names in the business and a few lesser known that make some really compelling products.

The Yeti setup looks awesome to me from a practical standpoint (no jam nuts and no drilling) and seems to be reasonably priced.

So, the million $ (or $679.99) question has to do with strength and durability. If the strength and durability prove to be there I can't imagine the Yeti not being a home run for you guys.

Can you comment at all on the strength? The type of usage you are targeting perhaps? Or something about the testing they are undergoing?

With some reassurance about the strength I would be asking you to put me down for a set.
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If by "a lot of steering linkage experience" you mean "complete jeep noob that agonizes for months and looses sleep over parts purchases while probably completely over analyzing all possible options" then why yes, you would be correct sir.

Seriously though, I've only had my JKU a year. I do as much work as I can myself and I try to be pretty thorough when looking at options. My comment about disliking jam nuts was based on my experience adjusting control arms and track bars and very nearly breaking my hand doing so. That and I'm always worried about them working loose. Also, I really hate the idea of drilling or reaming my knuckles.

Steering linkage happens to be pretty close to the top of my todo list so I have looked at everything that is out there many times, learned about things like Ackerman geometry that I wish I never knew about and so on. I'm sure you know who you're competing with here, some of the best names in the business and a few lesser known that make some really compelling products.

The Yeti setup looks awesome to me from a practical standpoint (no jam nuts and no drilling) and seems to be reasonably priced.

So, the million $ (or $679.99) question has to do with strength and durability. If the strength and durability prove to be there I can't imagine the Yeti not being a home run for you guys.

Can you comment at all on the strength? The type of usage you are targeting perhaps? Or something about the testing they are undergoing?

With some reassurance about the strength I would be asking you to put me down for a set.
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If by "a lot of steering linkage experience" you mean "complete jeep noob that agonizes for months and looses sleep over parts purchases while probably completely over analyzing all possible options" then why yes, you would be correct sir.

Seriously though, I've only had my JKU a year. I do as much work as I can myself and I try to be pretty thorough when looking at options. My comment about disliking jam nuts was based on my experience adjusting control arms and track bars and very nearly breaking my hand doing so. That and I'm always worried about them working loose. Also, I really hate the idea of drilling or reaming my knuckles.

Steering linkage happens to be pretty close to the top of my todo list so I have looked at everything that is out there many times, learned about things like Ackerman geometry that I wish I never knew about and so on. I'm sure you know who you're competing with here, some of the best names in the business and a few lesser known that make some really compelling products.

The Yeti setup looks awesome to me from a practical standpoint (no jam nuts and no drilling) and seems to be reasonably priced.

So, the million $ (or $679.99) question has to do with strength and durability. If the strength and durability prove to be there I can't imagine the Yeti not being a home run for you guys.

Can you comment at all on the strength? The type of usage you are targeting perhaps? Or something about the testing they are undergoing?

With some reassurance about the strength I would be asking you to put me down for a set.
Amphibole; I have just a few minutes to address your comment regarding strength. We manufacture all the heavy duty Ford truck linkages (F250 thru F750), and have for over 25 years. We are a full service supplier to the big three, and have been for over 85 years. We fully test all of our products and steering is our main core business. There's more to building a heavy duty linkage than a lot of people realize, years of lessons learned.

A seal is one of the most important item on a ball joint. As soon as you get
moisture in the joint your done. We test our ball joints on a 17 day seal test while articulating the joint under hot and cold temps and while spraying them under pressure with salt water. We induction harden our studs for greater strength. We use steel bearings instead of plastic. We forge our tie rods in house and design them so they clear wheels and heat shields. Out ball size, on the JK YETI linkage, is a 30mm dia. ball. This JK joint, that I just described, is the joint we use on Heavy Duty Trucks...

Our reverse pin socket, that we put on the YETI drag link and tie rod assemblies, is a design that we developed for Ford Motor Company to keep steering linkage from flopping when driving on a wash board type road. Over the past 15 years we have manufactured millions of these reverse pin sockets for Ford F Series and Ram HD trucks without any warranty issues.

Clamps and being able to adjust the linkage while it's installed is very important to us. Adjustments are easy and torque on a clamp is about 40 to 45 pounds. No one should ever sell a steering linkage with Jam Nuts. The only advantage to jam nuts is to the manufacture, they're cheap.

We also roll our threads on all of our tie rod ends (1.25" diameter). Rolled threads are much stronger than cut threads.

We have in house everyone's "so called' heavy duty linkage for evaluation. And "yes" we have evaluated the cost of our competitors linkage to our $699 for top mount. I agree with you, we are priced at a very reasonable price. There is no better linkage on the market.
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Amphibole; I have just a few minutes to address your comment regarding strength. We manufacture all the heavy duty Ford truck linkages (F250 thru F750), and have for over 25 years. We are a full service supplier to the big three, and have been for over 85 years. We fully test all of our products and steering is our main core business. There's more to building a heavy duty linkage than a lot of people realize, years of lessons learned.

A seal is one of the most important item on a ball joint. As soon as you get
moisture in the joint your done. We test our ball joints on a 17 day seal test while articulating the joint under hot and cold temps and while spraying them under pressure with salt water. We induction harden our studs for greater strength. We use steel bearings instead of plastic. We forge our tie rods in house and design them so they clear wheels and heat shields. Out ball size, on the JK YETI linkage, is a 30mm dia. ball. This JK joint, that I just described, is the joint we use on Heavy Duty Trucks...

Our reverse pin socket, that we put on the YETI drag link and tie rod assemblies, is a design that we developed for Ford Motor Company to keep steering linkage from flopping when driving on a wash board type road. Over the past 15 years we have manufactured millions of these reverse pin sockets for Ford F Series and Ram HD trucks without any warranty issues.

Clamps and being able to adjust the linkage while it's installed is very important to us. Adjustments are easy and torque on a clamp is about 40 to 45 pounds. No one should ever sell a steering linkage with Jam Nuts. The only advantage to jam nuts is to the manufacture, they're cheap.

We also roll our threads on all of our tie rod ends (1.25" diameter). Rolled threads are much stronger than cut threads.

We have in house everyone's "so called' heavy duty linkage for evaluation. And "yes" we have evaluated the cost of our competitors linkage to our $699 for top mount. I agree with you, we are priced at a very reasonable price. There is no better linkage on the market.
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Thank you Compliant for the detailed response in "just a few minutes." I'd love to hear the long version.

I'm sold.
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Amphibole; I have just a few minutes to address your comment regarding strength. We manufacture all the heavy duty Ford truck linkages (F250 thru F750), and have for over 25 years. We are a full service supplier to the big three, and have been for over 85 years. We fully test all of our products and steering is our main core business. There's more to building a heavy duty linkage than a lot of people realize, years of lessons learned. A seal is one of the most important item on a ball joint. As soon as you get moisture in the joint your done. We test our ball joints on a 17 day seal test while articulating the joint under hot and cold temps and while spraying them under pressure with salt water. We induction harden our studs for greater strength. We use steel bearings instead of plastic. We forge our tie rods in house and design them so they clear wheels and heat shields. Out ball size, on the JK YETI linkage, is a 30mm dia. ball. This JK joint, that I just described, is the joint we use on Heavy Duty Trucks... Our reverse pin socket, that we put on the YETI drag link and tie rod assemblies, is a design that we developed for Ford Motor Company to keep steering linkage from flopping when driving on a wash board type road. Over the past 15 years we have manufactured millions of these reverse pin sockets for Ford F Series and Ram HD trucks without any warranty issues. Clamps and being able to adjust the linkage while it's installed is very important to us. Adjustments are easy and torque on a clamp is about 40 to 45 pounds. No one should ever sell a steering linkage with Jam Nuts. The only advantage to jam nuts is to the manufacture, they're cheap. We also roll our threads on all of our tie rod ends (1.25" diameter). Rolled threads are much stronger than cut threads. We have in house everyone's "so called' heavy duty linkage for evaluation. And "yes" we have evaluated the cost of our competitors linkage to our $699 for top mount. I agree with you, we are priced at a very reasonable price. There is no better linkage on the market. Compliant
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Complaint, I sent you a message on your profile asking about any deals on the Yetti Tie Rod. Any ideas if you guys have any deals? I am in dire need of a good tie rod replacement.
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Complaint, I sent you a message on your profile asking about any deals on the Yetti Tie Rod. Any ideas if you guys have any deals? I am in dire need of a good tie rod replacement.
Did you try Pm?
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I didn't... I just saw that other people had posted things to his profile so I did that. Figured with vendors it might be best to start that way.
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I didn't... I just saw that other people had posted things to his profile so I did that. Figured with vendors it might be best to start that way.
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I know i use the apps 99.9% of the time and overlook the profile comments. Not sure how Ron views the forum ... A mention should work
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I didn't... I just saw that other people had posted things to his profile so I did that. Figured with vendors it might be best to start that way.
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Is grease supposed to leak out of the Griffin? I bought one for my JKU, and I noticed that is has a slight accumulation of grease coming out of it.
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