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Old 05-11-2014, 05:01 AM   #1
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When driving on two-tracks and trails, you must have an ORV and Trail tag for your vehicle. So Saturday I notice many other vehicles out on the two-tracks in Allegan State Game Area that do not have an ORV tag. Asked one guy that was out there hunting and he said as long as you have a license plate your fine. Hmm... that's not what the Game Warden told me on the phone. License plates are for public road use only.

I got both the ORV tag and the Trails tag just to be on the safe side. And yes, my Jeep has a license plate too good till 2015.

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Most two tracks you don't need an orv or trail sticker for, but it all depends on the county and who and how they maintain the trails. For the cost it's just safe to get the orv and trail because at some point one if the trails your on is going to require it.

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Old 05-15-2014, 08:05 PM   #3
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Are there any maps for the two tracks there in allegan.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:17 PM   #4
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There is an app called every trail that uses GPS to let you know of trails others have talked around you. Dnr website also has lots of maps.
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I got one of those Michigan map books that shows trails. I also make sure there are signs on both sides that say Public Hunting Area before I venture on the trail. Otherwise I could be venturing on someone's property and that wouldn't be too cool.

According to the new rule for ORV tag, if a 2WD vehicle can pass through the two-track, then an ORV tag is not needed. The question I have on that vague rule is what happens when your on a two track that a 2WD can drive on, then suddenly takes a turn to being too rough and impassable for the 2WD. Then what? You'll need an ORV tag. All together it's a little over $36 for the entire year. Even with my tight budget I can swing that.
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If the 2 track you are on is not designated as an ORV Route and is not passable in 2wd, turn around and go a different way. An ORV tag (actually 2 now) on a Jeep or truck is only to gain admission to a handful of places in MI (Silver Lake, St Helen Motorsport area, Bull Gap) plus one ORV Route (Drummond Island) that has sections that ORV sticker is required. An ORV permit does not allow you to operate your Jeep on an otherwise impassable 2 track or county road.

A forest road is any road in the state forest that is passable in 2wd, and is open to any vehicle with a SOS license plate. A forest road does not require an ORV sticker. A county seasonal road does not require an ORV sticker. If an ORV Route or Trail runs along a road or 2 track that otherwise meets the definition of a forest road you are not required to have an ORV sticker. These rules are not new, the only thing new is 2 sticker system, and of course the cost.

A good map is a good place to start - if you use a GPS I would recommend the maps produced by VV Mapping, he has some of the best maps around particularly of the ORV system in MI. Paper Maps like the Gazeteer are also fairly reliable at showing you where the boundaries for the state forests are, but are generally not accurate enough to identify where private land starts and stops, you need county platt maps for that.
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If the 2 track you are on is not designated as an ORV Route and is not passable in 2wd, turn around and go a different way. An ORV permit does not allow you to operate your Jeep on an otherwise impassable 2 track or county road.

Paper Maps like the Gazeteer are also fairly reliable at showing you where the boundaries for the state forests are, but are generally not accurate enough to identify where private land starts and stops, you need county platt maps for that.
Unless the impassable 2-track is on private land that you have permission. Which means I don't need to tags. Oh well, I got 'em any ways.

I got the Michigan and Missouri Gazeteer map books. I also had some topo maps too, but those are for upper Michigan. I forget where I use to buy them, it was through the mail. Those are very informative maps.
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Getting closer to Allegan and most of the trails are blocked off by red gates. Seems like the best few trails or fire-lanes are around 118th and 116th Ave.

Found a nice lookout over the Kalamazoo river. I sat there for some time yesterday seeing a couple canoes floating by. Got some good size fish in that river too.

I came across a sign for Ottawa County nailed on a post, most of it was broken off. I was in the heart of Allegan County yet, why would that be there?Was going to take that 122nd Ave and see where it goes to. According to the map, it follows to New Richmond. Maybe next time. Burned up enough gas Saturday.

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