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Old 06-17-2013, 11:03 AM   #31
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We just spent a couple nights at the Sierra Sands also. Nice place and friendly staff.

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Old 06-17-2013, 11:12 AM   #32
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Never heard of "no mirrors" being an issue for anyone there. Or for anywhere in Michigan for tha matter.

The thing I have heard tickets for the most is towing on the road with a strap/rope/chain, they are sticklers on that.
In reed city they will get you for it. i was pulled over once in my wrangler. My buddy has been pulled over like 3 times. Once in he truck for a broken drivers side, ones in his XJ with the doors off, and once in his Comanche whit the doors off. The Comanche did have a did have driver and rear mirror. He said he didnt see it but i think he was trying to show his "power".

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If you are talking Hotel - Sierra Sands. Stayed there twice. It's clean and the operators are nice. There are others as well. You can probably find a cottage to rent too depending on when you want to go. Try and avoid Holiday weekends.
If you are into camping, there are a few nice campgrounds in that area. If you are a first timer you should go up on a Thursday and get out on the dunes Thursday night or earlier Friday. This should give you some time to practice with lighter traffic on the dunes. One of my favorite things to do there is drive to the top of test hill, park, get out, and watch all the sweet rides, crazy people on bikes, and high flying buggies. I really enjoy busy weekends because that is when there is more to see and watch. On very busy weekends there will be drag racing in the flat areas, long travel buggies showing off on the dunes, awesome Jeeps, and much more. I would say get some experience under your belt driving on the dunes and then spend time enjoying all the other stuff to do while you are there.
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Where is Reed city? I only plan on going from silver creek Rv resort to the dunes with the doors off.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:08 AM   #35
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Where is Reed city? I only plan on going from silver creek Rv resort to the dunes with the doors off.
it where 131 and 10 cross
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:26 PM   #36
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First time out at the dunes with her. 4:10 gears, 14lbs in the tires. Kept the auto trans an first and let her eat. Made it up test hill no problem. I even did it in 2wd.
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:48 AM   #37
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I went back to the dunes on Monday for a quick day trip. I had no problems for the most part, but on my 2013 I still had some issues with traction control. I was fine going up test hill as long as I could keep some momentum, but as soon as I started to lose speed the engine would bog down and the "nanny" would take over and start doing a brake dance until the engine stalled. This was in 1st gear (6-speed manual). I also noticed what felt like a lot of wheel hop. I'm assuming that was the computer trying to slow down one or both of the rear wheels. I've experienced wheel hop in a Mustang on asphalt before, but that was with good traction (not likely to happen in the sand). It got pretty violent at a couple points on the sand so I backed off a little. Looks like I may need to put a switch on to disable TCS all together for my next trip out there.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:03 AM   #38
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4lo disables the traction control as well.
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On my dads dodge if you hold the traction control button for 30secs well in 4hi, it disables traction control and esc completely until you go over 40mph, maybe its the same in new jeeps?
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I can turn down the TC system with the button, but it doesn't turn it off. The 'limited slip' differential just puts the brake on one of the rear wheels if it senses that it's turning faster than the other one. I thought about unplugging one of the rear wheel speed sensors but didn't try it.
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Not sure about your 2013, our 2008 worked fine following the instructions in the owner's manual to disable the TC. Once we disabled the traction control it turned into one of my favorite dune vehicles, stock GS-A radials at about 13-15 pounds. The LSD in the rear is not the culprit - the computer is applying the brakes, the LSD is a mechanical thing that will not be a problem once you get the electronics turned off. I read a write-up a while back about the steps needed to defeat ALL of the electronics (3 pedal stomps, turn the wheel L-R-L, rub your belly while sticking out your tongue or something silly like that) but there should be an easier step to disable only the ESP while letting the roll-over and other electronic widgets stay active.
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I tried the steering wheel dance but it didn't work. From what I understand it doesn't work on the 2012 or 2013.
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Found a smart ass with this reply::

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I tried the steering wheel dance but it didn't work. From what I understand it doesn't work on the 2012 or 2013.
The easiest way to disable it is to run in 4lo. The next easiest way is to put it on a switch. You can put a switch inline on one wire under the instrument panel from the driver side. When switched off TCS, ESP, and ABS are disabled. Once switched back on the ignition needs to be cycled before things are reset. The switch method works in 2wd, 4hi, and 4lo. IIRC its a purple/white wire. I just used a single pole switch. The wire doesnt carry much current so you dont need anything heavy duty.
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just my 2 cents we have a 2000 wrangler with the 4.0 and an automatic 33S and 3:73 gears I run 9 psi rear and 10 front I run 4low and hold it in 2 to go up test hill it will scoot right up
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So what would you guys recommend for 33s and 3:07 gearing? Like tire pressure, 4hi or 4lo, and what not...and yes i know...33s and 3:07 , but it's the first time I'm taking my jeep to the dunes!
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So what would you guys recommend for 33s and 3:07 gearing? Like tire pressure, 4hi or 4lo, and what not...and yes i know...33s and 3:07 , but it's the first time I'm taking my jeep to the dunes!
Tire pressure depends on the tire, rim width, etc. Start at 12 and go down from there. My MT MTX needed 6 psi to work right, but I think that is a bit unusual.

My 93YJ 33/3.07 was a 5 speed, I ran 2 or 3rd gear in 4Lo most of the time, but never did get that thing to the top of test hill. Always ran out of oomph in exactly the same spot, no matter what gear/tcase combo I tried. My JK and LJ are both autos, just point and shoot once the air pressure is right.
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Tire pressure depends on the tire, rim width, etc. Start at 12 and go down from there. My MT MTX needed 6 psi to work right, but I think that is a bit unusual.

My 93YJ 33/3.07 was a 5 speed, I ran 2 or 3rd gear in 4Lo most of the time, but never did get that thing to the top of test hill. Always ran out of oomph in exactly the same spot, no matter what gear/tcase combo I tried. My JK and LJ are both autos, just point and shoot once the air pressure is right.
Mine are 33x12.5x15 goodyear wranglers, sorry I should have specified before...
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The best way to get to know the dunes is head out in the middle of the week, play with your tire pressure, (9-12 front 10-13 back) buy a tire gage that is from 1 psi to 20 psi, do small hills first, if you can turn off all "nannies", take your time, bring a strap, stay away from water holes, look for "one way" signs, let your rig cool down after some hard runs by parking by lake Michigan...I have been going to Silver Lake for 38 years.
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The best way to get to know the dunes is head out in the middle of the week, play with your tire pressure, (9-12 front 10-13 back) buy a tire gage that is from 1 psi to 20 psi, do small hills first, if you can turn off all "nannies", take your time, bring a strap, stay away from water holes, look for "one way" signs, let your rig cool down after some hard runs by parking by lake Michigan...I have been going to Silver Lake for 38 years.
Yeah I love the place! I've gone 15 out of the 19 years I've been alive haha. My dad always took us out in his YJ, and it's one of my favorite vacation spots! Thanks for the advice though! Unfortunately we are going over the weekend so I know it will be pretty crowded, but I think I'm going to take it easy. There's really no point in wrecking something that I just bought!
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Hey guys, I'm new to the jeep club, I have a baby coming in October and a 4-door wrangler is about the closest I can bring myself to a minivan. So I pick it up tomorrow and will drive it straight up to test it out at silver lake. This is my first time driving on dunes, so if any of you all will be out there this Saturday and could show me the ropes, that would be great.
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Hey guys, I'm new to the jeep club, I have a baby coming in October and a 4-door wrangler is about the closest I can bring myself to a minivan. So I pick it up tomorrow and will drive it straight up to test it out at silver lake. This is my first time driving on dunes, so if any of you all will be out there this Saturday and could show me the ropes, that would be great.
Hey! Welcome to the forum! I'm new to all of this too, I just got my first Jeep in February and I'm taking it to Silver lake this weekend for the first time also! So I will be out there, but like I said, it's my first time in my jeep...so we are in the same boat
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Hey! Welcome to the forum! I'm new to all of this too, I just got my first Jeep in February and I'm taking it to Silver lake this weekend for the first time also! So I will be out there, but like I said, it's my first time in my jeep...so we are in the same boat
Lol, well there's a bit of bad news from this end, the dealership was late getting it in so we have to wait for Monday. *doing my best to keep calm* We'll still be out there but probably won't get to play on the dunes since well be in our Subaru. Next time I'll look you up
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Hey all, just letting the future and current readers know that my Jeep did very well with 33x12.5x15 tires and 3.07 gearing. I kept it in 4hi the whole time and chugged up Test Hill without a problem. Now my Jeep is a 6cyl, so I can't speak for a 4cyl, but I was very impressed. Now with all of that being said, I dropped it down into 2hi in the deep sand by the donut holes and decided to do some donuts of my own. My guess is that the weight of the tire + the low gear ratio + the deep, heavy sand + the lateral force on the tire is what caused it, but something in the rear axle popped and now there is a jerk when I accelerate or turn. We just got it home today so we didn't tear down the axle, but I will be sure to let everyone know what happened to it. Lesson learned....don't do donuts in deep sand......
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Oh and I kept the tire pressure at 12 psi the whole time also
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Just back from the dunes, Jeep was awesome! 12 psi, 4 Hi, OD off, sometimes in Low 1 sometimes in D.

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Going fishing on the 6th in manistee and gonna hit the dunes on the 7th. Can't wait!
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2nd day as great as the first!
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^^^^ Stupid phone, oh well!
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I'm going apple fest weekend, anybody else going?

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