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Old 03-12-2013, 06:59 PM   #691
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Most clubs and people won't give up where to go but what can help is Google maps from the satellite view. Explore with that for potential places
We have been doing that and found a few places up in Merrimack NH and Salem NH, but have yet to check them out in person. I wouldn't mind spending a day up in NH riding some class IV roads, but it seems that nobody will give out any hints on where to find some promising ones without spending hours either google mapping or driving around

Also any info on the legality of driving through Freetown State Forest is very much appreciated, again from what I have read it seems like anything over 1000lbs is prohibited but i may be and probably am wrong.

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We have been doing that and found a few places up in Merrimack NH and Salem NH, but have yet to check them out in person. I wouldn't mind spending a day up in NH riding some class IV roads, but it seems that nobody will give out any hints on where to find some promising ones without spending hours either google mapping or driving around

Also any info on the legality of driving through Freetown State Forest is very much appreciated, again from what I have read it seems like anything over 1000lbs is prohibited but i may be and probably am wrong.
No, you are correct. Riding any of the trails in the forest (or powerlines)with a MV is illegal and done at your own risk. Only the marked improved roads (flat dirt roads for sightseeing/nature buffs) thru the State Forest, and the outlying Copicuit and Quanapog Rds are legimate to travel with a MV.

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Next time u guys head out or meet hit me up with a pm i live on indian town
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hello out there, I'm in Millis Ma, if you don't know where that is it's just north of foxboro. Looking to ride soon. Just getting my YJ back together.
throw me a line, where all the trails at!

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Any one know anythign about this area.

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2994 Cranberry Highway
East Wareham, MA 02538

It will take you to The Home Depo. If you zoom out a bit you can see the road named Roy St. it leads back to Sand pond. looks like a public dirt road. At this point with the laws the way they are in Mass I will be thrilled just to get some dirt on the tires. Don’t even need 4wd just some bumpy legal dirt.. One thing for sure I aren’t in Alabama anymore... There pretty much anything goes. All this being said I am a firm believer in Tread lightly.
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Has anyone tried Glebe St. in Taunton for off roading...
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Has anyone tried Glebe St. in Taunton for off roading...
SOS as all the other city/town owned unmaintained roads...........

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Please try to leave locations off of forums like this.. This is the reason these places get destroyed the way they do.. I've been out there a million times in the past, and even with trail cleanups there's always crap out there.. It's a nightmare for us and I'm sure at the rate it gets trashed it will not be open anymore in the near future.
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Yep people just suck thats all there is to it. If people didnt trash places like this there would be a lot more open trails. Every time we go out in the jeep we pick up trash that we see out there. The less of it the EPs see the longer we will have a few places to go.
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I have been talking to the department of fish and game, the city of Fall River, town of Freetown and mass state police. I am trying to organize a group and start a cleanup for wheeling idea. If we can go in and be respectful to the land then we can manage trash, hazardous fluids and maintain trails without destroying the land. I know people in high places in these departments and so far I have met with a few people to toss my idea around. The surrounding towns like this idea because we keep the woods clean so they do not have to spend all kinds of needed money to have it all cleaned. The mass wildlife fish and game likes this too because we get to place oil booms and keep track of trails and what kind of land damages take place. If the state Dosent have to pay for it they are more likely to have an open mind about this. I'm all for the crazy wheelin and having a blast but I too don't like to look at the trash and help cleanup when I go out. Not all of us are out to ruin the fun. We just have to encourage good behavior and act like caring human beings. I'm open to talk about this forest because I'm in it for a good name, some fun, and a common idea for others.
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I have been talking to the department of fish and game, the city of Fall River, town of Freetown and mass state police. I am trying to organize a group and start a cleanup for wheeling idea. If we can go in and be respectful to the land then we can manage trash, hazardous fluids and maintain trails without destroying the land. I know people in high places in these departments and so far I have met with a few people to toss my idea around. The surrounding towns like this idea because we keep the woods clean so they do not have to spend all kinds of needed money to have it all cleaned. The mass wildlife fish and game likes this too because we get to place oil booms and keep track of trails and what kind of land damages take place. If the state Dosent have to pay for it they are more likely to have an open mind about this. I'm all for the crazy wheelin and having a blast but I too don't like to look at the trash and help cleanup when I go out. Not all of us are out to ruin the fun. We just have to encourage good behavior and act like caring human beings. I'm open to talk about this forest because I'm in it for a good name, some fun, and a common idea for others.
I applaud your conviction on this matter, and would be happy to help if it ever came to fruition.

Unfortunately I can't see much headway being made with the DCR and the MA Environmental Police. (And as much as the MA State Police love to stick their nose into every other LE Agencies business they’re pretty much useless here as they tend to steer clear of Forest management and environmental enforcement – Probably due to the big riff between the MSP and the MAEP back when the big State Police merger/takeover took place and they couldn’t get their grubby hands on the EPO Division)

As far as cleanups are concerned, other than trash, you would need a myriad of DEM licenses and permits to deal with ANY materials considered “hazardous”. And in this liberal tree hugging State, pissing in a puddle would be deemed a hazardous material spill! LOL

The Cities and Towns – Fall River, Freetown, Westport, Dartmouth, and Lakeville that the State Forest borders really do not have much say as to what goes on within. I’m sure they all have their little conservation commissioners, however their only an advisory board to the State and have no real power.

The majority of the land is governed by the MA Dept. of Conservation and Recreation, and the Bio-reserves within by the DEM / DWM and a bunch of other tree-huggin’ salamander-savin’ commissions. A big chunk surrounding the North Watuppa and the Copicut reservoirs is owned and managed by the City of Fall River’s Water department and are totally off limits (trespassing) to vehicles. Two other large tracks of land are privately owned by the Algonquin Gas pipe line, and the National Grid transmission lines, both of which have a ”no trespassing” policy for liability reasons. Add to this, the fact that the Forest is convoluted with tracks of privately owned land that intersect State property all over the place with no obvious boundary markers.

I know...... I definitely sound like the ultimate pessimist, but I have worked for a municipality in this State for the last 31 years and learned that only 3 things ever come out of studies, committees, and meetings with this State;
1.) You’re a lot older when it’s over.
2.) Somewhere, somehow, a new tax or fee will be in place.
3.) Nothing will really change, but some suck-a$$ Politian will make it look good in the papers for re-election.

$hit, I feel like Joan Rivers - “Do I sound bitter??”

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I applaud your conviction on this matter, and would be happy to help if it ever came to fruition.

Unfortunately I can't see much headway being made with the DCR and the MA Environmental Police. (And as much as the MA State Police love to stick their nose into every other LE Agencies business they’re pretty much useless here as they tend to steer clear of Forest management and environmental enforcement – Probably due to the big riff between the MSP and the MAEP back when the big State Police merger/takeover took place and they couldn’t get their grubby hands on the EPO Division)

As far as cleanups are concerned, other than trash, you would need a myriad of DEM licenses and permits to deal with ANY materials considered “hazardous”. And in this liberal tree hugging State, pissing in a puddle would be deemed a hazardous material spill! LOL

The Cities and Towns – Fall River, Freetown, Westport, Dartmouth, and Lakeville that the State Forest borders really do not have much say as to what goes on within. I’m sure they all have their little conservation commissioners, however their only an advisory board to the State and have no real power.

The majority of the land is governed by the MA Dept. of Conservation and Recreation, and the Bio-reserves within by the DEM / DWM and a bunch of other tree-huggin’ salamander-savin’ commissions. A big chunk surrounding the North Watuppa and the Copicut reservoirs is owned and managed by the City of Fall River’s Water department and are totally off limits (trespassing) to vehicles. Two other large tracks of land are privately owned by the Algonquin Gas pipe line, and the National Grid transmission lines, both of which have a ”no trespassing” policy for liability reasons. Add to this, the fact that the Forest is convoluted with tracks of privately owned land that intersect State property all over the place with no obvious boundary markers.

I know...... I definitely sound like the ultimate pessimist, but I have worked for a municipality in this State for the last 31 years and learned that only 3 things ever come out of studies, committees, and meetings with this State;
1.) You’re a lot older when it’s over.
2.) Somewhere, somehow, a new tax or fee will be in place.
3.) Nothing will really change, but some suck-a$$ Politian will make it look good in the papers for re-election.

$hit, I feel like Joan Rivers - “Do I sound bitter??”

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I'm trying insanely hard. The hazardous waste part won't be so hard. Mid city told me they would pay for my licensing as long as it keeps a good name on them, and I stay with them. The environmental police are having issues with my idea because there would be no clear way to see who is who. And we would still be "abusing The land" even tho I got through the mass wildlife fish and game. They gave me the good word but the ep are still indecisive. I'm still trying to get into more places and look into being more "offical" to help make my situation look better. It's all about money these days. But the land owned by the state gas and federal such as the resistor, gas line, power lines and railroad will be impossible to use
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I'm trying insanely hard. The hazardous waste part won't be so hard. Mid city told me they would pay for my licensing as long as it keeps a good name on them, and I stay with them. The environmental police are having issues with my idea because there would be no clear way to see who is who. And we would still be "abusing The land" even tho I got through the mass wildlife fish and game. They gave me the good word but the ep are still indecisive. I'm still trying to get into more places and look into being more "offical" to help make my situation look better. It's all about money these days. But the land owned by the state gas and federal such as the resistor, gas line, power lines and railroad will be impossible to use
Boy does that sum it all up!

State land is all we possibly could use. They just need to make some of the MC /ATV trails accessable to ORV use. Not asking for a lot here. Their already stuffing ORV permits down our throats for our registered street legal Jeeps, so they have a method of identification and permiting. (And making us wear helmets. HELMETS!!! In a jeep!!!)

I still foresee cleanups being a problem. Liability / injury on State property will be the big issue. Dosen't matter if it's done free or not. And no one to hold accountable if something goes wrong.

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Anyone wheeling this weekend? I am gonna hit a local place up but anything in the Fall River area?
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I'm going out Saturday and Sunday to Class VI's with members from Exploring NH
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ok maybe I can come next time.. I am in a 3 hour recall this weekend...
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Where the location? What the terrain like?
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Yesterday was in henniker and some of the trails got very very rocky, today I am heading to Rochester, I don't think it will be as tough today
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Thanks bud. I have a new bumper and winch to go on soon. Then I'm ready to test it out.
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Thanks bud. I have a new bumper and winch to go on soon. Then I'm ready to test it out.
Sweet! Once you get the winch goin' you'll be ready to go out and start breakin' $hit !!
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So, I've been reading bits and pieces throughout this whole thread. I moved to Mass in Dec from TX. I've met a few good Jeepers (I'm in the Berks, Great Barrington) from different parts of western Mass. Haven't really found a place to go yet though. I just tweaked a back injury so this weekend is out, but does anyone have any plans for the near future?

Also, what is this helmet business I see a few posts above??? I hate wearing one on my Harley, much less in my Jeep!!!
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Theres a jeep gathering on the 18th check out www.nea4wd.org under topless event should be fun. The helmet law is in the books, got our ass reamed by a off duty epo about it
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Thanks. I'll look it up.
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So, I've been reading bits and pieces throughout this whole thread. I moved to Mass in Dec from TX. I've met a few good Jeepers (I'm in the Berks, Great Barrington) from different parts of western Mass. Haven't really found a place to go yet though. I just tweaked a back injury so this weekend is out, but does anyone have any plans for the near future?

Also, what is this helmet business I see a few posts above??? I hate wearing one on my Harley, much less in my Jeep!!!
Here is a link to Chapter 202 Acts of 2010
http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/SessionLaws/Acts/2010/Chapter202

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C/90B http://www.malegislature.gov/laws/generallaws/parti/titlexiv/chapter90b

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Wow, long, boring, yet informative read. Thanks 84. So, what you're saying is we now have to wear a helmet, mouth guard, elbow and knee pads, face shield, leather bull riding gloves, and $300 North Face boots if our house happens to be off the beaten path. And if the driveway leading to said house from unbeaten path is unpaved I would need to pull over and gear up before heading up the mountain to my house (well, up to the base of the smallish-type mountain)...Sounds legit, I'm in. I can break out all my old military gear and it will give me a reason to ride around town geared up looking like that crazy guy who thinks he's still in combat. I should also mount a .50 cal to the top of my overhead roll bar (it's needed for the zombie apocalypse anyways).
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Wow, long, boring, yet informative read. Thanks 84. So, what you're saying is we now have to wear a helmet, mouth guard, elbow and knee pads, face shield, leather bull riding gloves, and $300 North Face boots if our house happens to be off the beaten path. And if the driveway leading to said house from unbeaten path is unpaved I would need to pull over and gear up before heading up the mountain to my house (well, up to the base of the smallish-type mountain)...Sounds legit, I'm in. I can break out all my old military gear and it will give me a reason to ride around town geared up looking like that crazy guy who thinks he's still in combat. I should also mount a .50 cal to the top of my overhead roll bar (it's needed for the zombie apocalypse anyways).
Yep, that's about right! Oh yeah, and don't forget, you also owe the State $35 to register your registered Jeep yearly as an ORV!
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Yep, that's about right! Oh yeah, and don't forget, you also owe the State $35 to register your registered Jeep yearly as an ORV!
Do you just go to the DMV and ask for a special form?
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Do you just go to the DMV and ask for a special form?
I don't believe that the DMV handles the ORV/OHV permits. I think there issued by the DCR thru the EPO's office under the Dept of Energy and Enviromental Affairs. There's a registration office in Fall River @ 218 South Main St.

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84, you have all the good info. Thanks bud. So I need to do this for my Cherokee too?

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