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Old 07-11-2013, 08:21 PM   #1
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wife wants to move to mass. i have questions on toys

wife is pushing me to move to mass. now my questions are.

do i have to give up all my cool guns?

do i have to return my jeeps to stock?

i am looking at the confusing laws of.no aftermarket exhaust and no lift kits and tires totaling 2 inches over stock height. i really would hate to remove 6k in lift kits and replace my exhuast.

so if any one can let me know that would be awesome. she is thinking of moving to hampden, southwick agawam, monson.
i would be happy to stay in ct with no yearly screw overs i mean inspections

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Old 07-11-2013, 10:28 PM   #2
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On the guns, depends on what you have. MA is tight, but not impossible with guns. It's up to each police chief whether he wants to issue u a concealed carry permit, tho u can appeal to the state. I live in West Springfield and they are pretty good here, same with Agawam. I have unrestricted high capacity concealed carry. The wait is what sucks and that after 20 years of military weapons training, I had to go thru And pay for a gun class. Takes 2-3 months to get it back

With inspections, most places don't look underneath. Many peeps keep a spare set of stock tires on rims for just insp purposes. They also can't be more than 2 inches outside the fenders. So either get wider fenders, or real narrow tires, lol.

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Old 07-11-2013, 10:40 PM   #3
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doesnt sound to bad. i have a couple of decked out ar15's with about 6 30 rounds, a bushmaster ba50.
i know how you feel.i had to wait along time to get my concealed and handgun permit in CT. i really dont want to have to do it all over again. i think it is really stupid. one permit should be good everywhere.

i have the stock tires for both jeeps. i just dont really feel like taking off my 4 inch lifts.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:08 AM   #4
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Nice weapons. I've got handguns right now, wifes HATES guns, even tho I was in the military for 20 years and played with toys the whole time. Finally got her to agree to letting me get a 12 gauge and a rifle. But now that I have the Jeep, been spending money on it, lol.

From my understanding, most places are more worried about tires sticking out than lift. Been told theres a place in Westfield that just makes sure emissions are good & safety stuff works, e-brake, lights, etc and doesn't care about check engine or airbag lights. Just registered mine this week and gotta get it inspected and my e-brake doesn't work. I'm hoping its a loose cable, cause I have screwed with drum brakes since I was in high school.

I will say I've asked around about places that for the right price will hook it up, and been told they are tough to find. And I'm not buying stolen stickers. Need to hit up some ricers, they know all the spots, lol

I def hear ya on not wanting to remove the lift. I have a 3" to install that I only want to do once and be done.

Where do you go wheeling around here?
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:37 PM   #5
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I'm hoping its a loose cable, cause I have screwed with drum brakes since I was in high school.
Easy! Convert to disc! :-P
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Old 07-12-2013, 04:26 PM   #6
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Not to steal thread, but any suggestions on the conversion?
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:34 PM   #7
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i just converted mine to disc. real easy to do if you have a dana 35 with c clips. i have a dana 44 so i had to use my press. but still easy to do took about 3 hours with beer breaks. id never go without disc on the back again it is outstanding.and i go wheeling in CT
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Converting to disks is an expensive way to fix an E-brake.
Would be cheaper to just take it in and get them adjusted the right way if you dont know how to do it.

As for Mass, there are lots of shops that will pass you no matter what.
I have gotten rejected then driven across the street and passed.

However the cops will pull you over for that stuff because they are a pain in the ass in Mass. They hassle me all the time in Eastern Mass, I bet Western is not as bad.

Tires cant stick out more than 1/2", not 2"
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:33 AM   #9
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Man why would anyone willing move to Mass.. *L* I was border line being discharged because I did not want to come here... Only 3 years left unless I make E6..

What part of Mass your wife looking to move to?
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:03 PM   #10
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hampden. southwick i told her several times i want nothing to do with it. such a pain in the ass. i have to get new permits,figure out what to do about guns,new reg,new driver lic, blah blah blah. she can wait id rather retire from corrections andmove back south.
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as far as the disc brakes go.it is better all the way around.if i had to do it again id spend the 250 bucks to do it again.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:21 AM   #12
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Both nice towns. I think Ma. and Ct are about the same. I'm sure there are some differences. Might be a little cheaper to live in Ma. I do know when I go to ct. things are more expensive. Personally I would rather live in Southwick. I grew up in Westfield about a half a mile from Southwick.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:05 AM   #13
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MA is overall cheaper, but not much. Think fuel prices especially. Southwick is nice, good schools. However, with the casino thing looking good for either Springfield or West Springfield, both would make spare change on the deal. As a West Side resident, I'm hoping we get it.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:41 PM   #14
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Good Lord, you have guns and a Jeep!! - The Peoples Republic of Massachusetts should be the LAST state you would want to move. This state goes out of it's way to make it inconvenient or near impossible to off road, the politicians are doing everything in their power to legislate gun control to the point that only the criminals will have firearms, and they treat welfare recipients and drug addicts like royalty while ignoring our elderly, veterans, or anyone who actually works for a living. If you want to stay on the east coast head further on south - the weather is nicer, people appreciate Jeeps and guns, and the politicians and general population doesn't suffer from liberal cranial-rectal entanglement like they do here!
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That has to be the absolute BEST way I've ever heard it explained! Sooo true
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That has to be the absolute BEST way I've ever heard it explained! Sooo true
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Yeah, having lived all over the country in my time in the military, I fell in love with Texas and the Carolinas. However, with the wars and my being away so much, I moved my wife and kids back home to western, MA to the family support system while I played in the sandbox for the last 7 years of my career. Now of course, I own a home not worth what I paid for it, so I can't sell it so I can move to where I'd rather be (North Carolina). Retire home to find my 20 years of weapons experience and multiple states worth of concealed weapons permits/licenses don't mean squat to the great and mighty Commonwealth and have to take and pay for a gun safety course, then be interviewed by my local police chief for the concealed carry (he was cool about it since I was military), then pay for the background check (even tho my secret clearance was still active) and WAIT 3 months for that to come back. Just ridiculous.
I wouldn't mind all those hoops IF it were for a FEDERAL concealed carry license. But for a single damned state...
Oh, heres one for you. Its $40 MORE dollars for a veterans plate than a regular plate. I was like, fine, so I whip out my retiree and VA ID's. Nope. Sorry. Gotta show us a an original or COPY of your DD214. COPY of something I can PDF and photoshop off the net, but you won't take real ID's with holograms? This state is insane. However, it does have a decent education system. I am happy about that. But thats about it
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Don't get me started on Veterans' plates! Most people don't know it but legislation authorizing Veterans' and DAV plates has been around since 1949. When this State went to the new "Spirit of America" plate in the late 80's and early 90's a several new Veterans' plate were established. ORIGINAL legislative hearings led every one to believe that the plate was to be issued at regular passenger plate fees. (Many, Many organizations and elected officials lobbied that the plate should have been issued completely free of charge.) Shortly before the release of the plates, the idiot Registrar (Gnazzo, I believe at the time) decided he was going to charge Vanity plate prices for the plate. This sparked an uproar from Veterans and Veterans organizations across the Commonwealth, and the Registry backed down and used the standard registration fee instead. Now they have tacked another $40 fee onto the plate, that's supposed to benefit the Chelsea and Holyoke Soldier's Homes. I would be interested in knowing if 100% of this fee is passed on to these organizations or is it like the MA head injury fund surcharge tacked onto EVERY speeding ticket in the Commonwealth where only a portion of the proceeds go to the fund and the rest goes directly into the States general budget!
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Apologies to the OP for this going off topic. The lady at the RMV happened to be the spouse of a retiree and told me to wait for my disabled plates to get approved. Which of course takes 30-90 days. Ugh. Would be interesting to know about the money from the veterans plates...
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Apologies to the OP for this going off topic. The lady at the RMV happened to be the spouse of a retiree and told me to wait for my disabled plates to get approved. Which of course takes 30-90 days. Ugh. Would be interesting to know about the money from the veterans plates...

Not really off topic! It's all pertinent information for the OP in making his decision as to whether to move to a Socialist run state, or find one that's still in the Republic of the USA!!
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:07 AM   #20
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In Western Mass they dont seem to care about the lift and tires thing. Everything is lifted around me. Guns are a pain here but friends still have all their assault rifles and other weapons without issue. I think its who you know in this state, since people here seem to be really closed minded and stick to the local mentality. Born here, stay here type of thing.

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