death wobble, im at my wits end.. HELP?! - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > WF Local > WF Local Forums for Your Region and State > Connecticut Jeep Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 09-13-2013, 06:42 PM   #1
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Woodbury, CT
Posts: 9
Images: 6
death wobble, im at my wits end.. HELP?!

I had a 2.5 inch Rough Country Suspension Lift put on my 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport, about a day later started experiencing the Death Wobble. Went to see what an alignment machine said and my camber is off, Left side was a -9 degrees Right side was a positive 5 degree I believe.. My caster was even but still had changed which I know is normal for lifting anything. I've since replaced the steering stabilizer with a Bilstein and the track bar. NOW its just as bad if not worse and this time my traction control light was flashing, it felt different than before more of a binding sensation. I have no clue where to go from here, Hoping someone can help me out so I'll be able to attend the Jeep Rally tomorrow

girlsJEEPtoo is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-13-2013, 07:23 PM   #2
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Woodbury, CT
Posts: 9
Images: 6
15 views and not a single reply, thanks guys ��

girlsJEEPtoo is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-13-2013, 09:28 PM   #3
Newb
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 3
From what I read (just installed a 2" OME lift and noticed some 'flighty-ness' in my steering, not DW, so I did my research and found a lot of info on alignments) if your camber is that far off then your axle may be bent or the ball joints need replacing. It is a full 9 degrees and not 0.9, right? And that wasn't the caster (I think recommended spec is low to mid 4, but acceptable to mid 5). Could you maybe post your full alignment spec?

The traction light usually comes on when the steering wheel needs to be re-centered (needed after the lift), but there could be other reasons.

I found these very helpful:
Diagnosing Death Wobble:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/dia...les-78034.html

JK Do-it-yourself front end alignment:
Basic Do-it-Yourself Jeep JK Wrangler Front End Alignment

Here's my alignment specs post lift:
Front (Left,Right)
Camber: -0.7, -0.4
Caster: 5.8, 6.0
Toe: 0.05, 0.05
Cross Camber: -0.3
Cross Caster: -0.2
Total Toe: 0.1
Rear (left,right)
Camber: -0.4,-0.6
Toe: 0.12, 0.10
Total Toe: 0.23
Thrust Angle: 0.01

I hope that helps...
JKJRC is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-15-2013, 08:33 AM   #4
Jeeper
 
Robertsk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Stafford CT
Posts: 265
Replacing the steering stabilizer would not have solved anything, simply masked the issue.

You did have those camber angles corrected, right?

I'd agree with JKJRC and suspect the ball joints as well.
__________________
If it doesn't move and it should, WD-40. If it does move and it shouldn't, duct tape. A lot of duct tape.
Robertsk1 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-15-2013, 12:11 PM   #5
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 37,140
Girlsjeep, camber out can be a couple things, bent axle C's which is unlikely. Or possible bad ball joint(s) will make the numbers change.

Who installed the lift ? If you need help. Always welcome to come down my way.

Ken

Damn it, I was at the rally and could of helped
Fwiw I live 5 minutes from there.
kjeeper10 is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-16-2013, 08:13 AM   #6
Jeeper
 
mave996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by girlsJEEPtoo View Post
I had a 2.5 inch Rough Country Suspension Lift put on my 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport, about a day later started experiencing the Death Wobble. Went to see what an alignment machine said and my camber is off, Left side was a -9 degrees Right side was a positive 5 degree I believe.. My caster was even but still had changed which I know is normal for lifting anything. I've since replaced the steering stabilizer with a Bilstein and the track bar. NOW its just as bad if not worse and this time my traction control light was flashing, it felt different than before more of a binding sensation. I have no clue where to go from here, Hoping someone can help me out so I'll be able to attend the Jeep Rally tomorrow
did you replace the track bar with an adjustable one?
mave996 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-16-2013, 12:07 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
Cubdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: S.E. Litchfield County, CT
Posts: 509
I hope those camber angles were a mistype - 9* is a pretty big camber number! Have you seen the DW videos posted above, and have you checked to be certain that everything that was disturbed to install the lift kit has been torqued properly? It sounds like *something* is loose in there.

Good luck with getting it squared away.

-Pat
Cubdriver is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-16-2013, 12:20 PM   #9
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 37,140
I PM'd the OP but no response. Hopefully she responds.
Im thinking botched install. I don't think the camber numbers are correct unless the jeep is wheeled. Too new to have a bent C or balljoints.
kjeeper10 is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-16-2013, 05:23 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
mave996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by girlsJEEPtoo View Post
I had a 2.5 inch Rough Country Suspension Lift put on my 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport, about a day later started experiencing the Death Wobble. Went to see what an alignment machine said and my camber is off, Left side was a -9 degrees Right side was a positive 5 degree I believe.. My caster was even but still had changed which I know is normal for lifting anything. I've since replaced the steering stabilizer with a Bilstein and the track bar. NOW its just as bad if not worse and this time my traction control light was flashing, it felt different than before more of a binding sensation. I have no clue where to go from here, Hoping someone can help me out so I'll be able to attend the Jeep Rally tomorrow
Where you at the jeep show at teds in cromwell this summer?
mave996 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-16-2013, 06:10 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
Cubdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: S.E. Litchfield County, CT
Posts: 509
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I PM'd the OP but no response. Hopefully she responds.
Im thinking botched install. I don't think the camber numbers are correct unless the jeep is wheeled. Too new to have a bent C or balljoints.

Hopefully the DW didn't live up to its name...

-Pat
Cubdriver is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-17-2013, 07:14 AM   #12
Newb
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 11
Wow that was a good video
Ttouch is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-23-2013, 08:25 PM   #13
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Woodbury, CT
Posts: 9
Images: 6
Thanks or the responses and advice! Sorry it took so long to respond. It ended up being trailing arms! The steering stabilizer and track bar I did I already knew would probably be a band aid fix but I figured there's no harm in putting better parts in, Clayton Off Road in east haven were a god send and laughed when they heard I was already antisipating going bigger lol

girlsJEEPtoo is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Download our Mobile App

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:47 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC