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Old 02-29-2012, 11:35 PM   #1
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Does any one know a decent engine machine shop in south jersey (cherry hill area)?

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I'm also looking for the same thing but the shop must be knowledged on 4.0's and their heads. I'm half tempted to send my stuff down to North Carolina where some of the most powerful naturally aspirated Jeep I-6s are based out of.

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Raz performance in glassboro guys great
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Thats them i had them do my motor work and they did a great job not one problem at all that little 2.5 is excelent
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Thats them i had them do my motor work and they did a great job not one problem at all that little 2.5 is excelent
Great to hear! I need my 2.5 done to. What all did they do for you? What did it cost?
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I had it bored out to a 3.0 so bored honed and new rings pistons heads redone i had alot of work done to mine and it cost me a decent penny for it all done 1800 was final cost when said and done fr just there stuff plus i did a 4.0 throttle body fuel injectors and all the motor is so nasty
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I had it bored out to a 3.0 so bored honed and new rings pistons heads redone i had alot of work done to mine and it cost me a decent penny for it all done 1800 was final cost when said and done fr just there stuff plus i did a 4.0 throttle body fuel injectors and all the motor is so nasty
Wow man that's a lot. But it sounds like you have much more powerful engine now. I'm hoping to just need hone, There weren't any major problems with the motor before I took it apart.
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Yea i went all out i was making 158hp stock and now im making 284hp to the rear wheels and almost 500 ftlbs of torque its nasty its also running on methane
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284?????? 500 TQ?????? Naturally aspirated????? If thats what they told you it should be making I will not use them. I Also take in driveline reduction You'd have to me making well over 300hp at the crank to see them numbers at the rear wheels. A 4.0in stock form is putting about 108 to the rear wheels mated to an aw4 and about 125 with a stick. that is with factory tires and steel wheels. Now your jeep in your avatar is lifted with heavier tires and wheels than stock. Also a 4.0 with a 258 crank and bored bored .30 over gives you .60 in order for you to be making over 300 hp at the crank you increased your oout put by about 25-0% on a stock stroke and naturally aspirated. ???

I'll pay for your dyno run just for you to put copies of them on this site. If the dyno proved me wrong I'll pay you $500 on top of the dyno cost.
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Go or give a call to NoExcuses Jeep in New Egypt. They're not a machine shop, but I guarantee they'll recommend you to some competent Jeep experts in the area.

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284?????? 500 TQ?????? Naturally aspirated????? If thats what they told you it should be making I will not use them. I Also take in driveline reduction You'd have to me making well over 300hp at the crank to see them numbers at the rear wheels. A 4.0in stock form is putting about 108 to the rear wheels mated to an aw4 and about 125 with a stick. that is with factory tires and steel wheels. Now your jeep in your avatar is lifted with heavier tires and wheels than stock. Also a 4.0 with a 258 crank and bored bored .30 over gives you .60 in order for you to be making over 300 hp at the crank you increased your oout put by about 25-0% on a stock stroke and naturally aspirated. ???

I'll pay for your dyno run just for you to put copies of them on this site. If the dyno proved me wrong I'll pay you $500 on top of the dyno cost.
Not to mention, he said his 2.5L engine.
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Thats what they said the dyno would run but ive never run it myself
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I'm sorry but I refuse to use them now. Your motor came with 121 hp in bone stock form at the flywheel so figure only a tad over 100 was seen at the rear stock wheels and tires. wheel and tire combination just on the rear is going to be an additional 30 or so odd pounds of rotating weight.
A 4.0 stroked to a 4.6 with a cnc ported aluminum head, custom grind cam, dual 58 mm throttle body, 13.5:1 compression on race fuel with a megasquirt and 2 bar MAP is putting about 270 to the rear wheels in a perfect tune. Granted I don't know much about your motor other than you have bored about .60 over and a 58mm throttle body. bhut that alone will probably get you to about 110 to the rear wheels with a tuned ECM (Not a jet chip) If you were running high compression (not capable for pump gas), along with a full custom trim in your ecm and a decked block with 0 quench and a custom ground cam and oversized valves even with aluminum rods I'd say best youre going to see about 180 to the rear wheels and thats with custom cut tires for weight reduxction and dune racing wheels(wide 5), maybe equal torque. Get rid of the aluminim rods and maybe 200 for tq. If you ran low compression with a turbo or superchrger boosting to a safe level you may be looking at 200 to the rear wheels top. Over that the block would come aprt on the bottom end. Think about it a stroked 350small block chevy to a 383 with edlebrock crap on the top end are making just about 300 to the wheels. I'm not trying to knock you (esp since thats what the shop told you) but the numbers you through out are astronomical. Remember 4/6 cylinder mud racing is my hobby and life I have been around extremely modified jeep motors alot and to get any decent numbers out of them they are not streetable in any means.
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Not to mention, he said his 2.5L engine.
I know he did I'm just using numbers from a straight six to show that even with 2 additional cylinders and an additional 100= cubic you are not turning them kinds of numbers. I feel bad for the guy for the shop to take advantage of someone like that by claiming numbers like that.
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Go or give a call to NoExcuses Jeep in New Egypt. They're not a machine shop, but I guarantee they'll recommend you to some competent Jeep experts in the area.

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Jack is very good. But as far as all out race motors go i'm not quite sure he'd be able to help (on my end at least)
. he's more into the crawling scene. If I'm building a motor I want my peak hp to be over 6k rpm
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That's a diesel HP to tq spread your not getting anywhere near that kind of tq with under 300 HP worked at fonse performance for a little while did a ton of dyno runs on n/a supercharged and turbo setups the tq just won't get that far ahead even tuning for low end grunt. Use fonse in Erial for n/a they did all my machining I assembled.
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:25 PM   #18
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So i got pissed off bc i didnt know what my jeep motor made so i took it to my buddys speed shop today and after puting it in the truck and driving it all the way there and running it tests proved that it made 447 hp and 521 ftlbs of torque so that made me happy to know what the damb thing makes even though it cost me 400 bucks for fuel and dyno run im happy that i at least know what my motor can make at least to the crank so now to put the motor in the jeep and bring the jeep down and see what she makes to the rear axle so i will update as soon as i get the motor in and all done
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That's nuts what compression ratio and what fuel? It takes a decent amount of money into a Chevy small block with 9.5-10.0 to 1 to get that kind of power.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:37 PM   #20
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That i know bc i put the motor together myself all they did was machine it and do all the sizing and give me an estimate on it the compression ratio is 11.5 to 1 and im running high octane with a methanol injection set up its a full rig im building its gonna be a competiotion vehicle when im all said and done with it
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So i got pissed off bc i didnt know what my jeep motor made so i took it to my buddys speed shop today and after puting it in the truck and driving it all the way there and running it tests proved that it made 447 hp and 521 ftlbs of torque so that made me happy to know what the damb thing makes even though it cost me 400 bucks for fuel and dyno run im happy that i at least know what my motor can make at least to the crank so now to put the motor in the jeep and bring the jeep down and see what she makes to the rear axle so i will update as soon as i get the motor in and all done
Pic of dyno print out or it didn't happen
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Um no. As they said pic of the print out. I have been around nasty motors since I was a kid. I help tune in Lee County NC. I see what them guys go through to achieve the numbers that they do. If you are putting them kind of numbers out. You should be able to go down there and spank up on all of their guys and make a living off of your motor. Also if it's gonna be competition based....BRING IT!!!. www.mudinthepines.com. I have the only mud racing COMPETITIONS in Jersey. Your power to weight ratio should allow you to kill my 4/6 cylinder class, you won't be able to pull the vaccuum needed for class 1, however you should kill class 2 and also be competitive in class 3 even with smaller tires.

One thing I garuntee you is that if your motor is pushing out them kind of numbers. You have a little more than a 4.0 Throttle body on it. because at 300 hp a 70 mm custom throttle body is starving the motor. So tell me who built your sheetmetal intake capable of holding a 100+ throttle body on top of it.

If you want tto throw numbers out like this Tell me what shop you took the motor to and I will help you get poics of the dyno sheet onto the website.
I will take back everything I have said and post this on the front page of this website and many others showing how dumb I am if you prove me wrong.
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Damn mudboy I was takin the nice route but u hit that on the head an 11.5-1 Chevy 350 with cheap heads stock internals is pushing that. Hell a marine 502 was around there before we got to it. No disrespect to this guy I just think he was sadly mis-informed, unfortunately it happens too often in the performance game.
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So i got pissed off bc i didnt know what my jeep motor made so i took it to my buddys speed shop today and after puting it in the truck and driving it all the way there and running it tests proved that it made 447 hp and 521 ftlbs of torque so that made me happy to know what the damb thing makes even though it cost me 400 bucks for fuel and dyno run im happy that i at least know what my motor can make at least to the crank so now to put the motor in the jeep and bring the jeep down and see what she makes to the rear axle so i will update as soon as i get the motor in and all done
Not a chance in hell...this is beyond idiotic...

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Bump!!!!.
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i'd ask for video of it...

anyone can change the numbers just by using paint...

I'll give you my R6 if you put down 450 with a 2.5L...not a chance in hell. My friends 93 mustang GT with a built and tuned 347 stroker only put down 485hp and 525tq...and that was with a 100 or 125 shot
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Those numbers should certainly have the support of video. I'll toss this one up while we're waiting......
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