Fatkat, I agree but it's a catch 22.. because of the habits of many off roaders (bad habits) we end up on the bottom of the list but if the atv's keep up with the way they ride.. we may actually move up a notch. I think it best said that one bad apple tends to ruin it for all of us. I think off roaders like myself try to show these commeties that "We" some of us, want to mildly off road without trashing up the land and we tend to end up on friends or families land.. which at the moment is all good.. Let them fight or do what ever they want and we shouldn't explect anything from them any time soon only until a few of the "bad apples" prove they can ride a trail without trashing it.
My update?.. Well I'm approching this a bit differantly.. and I may just have a few surpised for jeep/off roaders.. (mild trails)