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Old 03-28-2009, 10:10 PM   #1
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were r they and when!!! i have a few jeeps that will go.

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I'm in, as long as nobody's tearing up the wetlands- Mark W.
That seems to be the major concern. We do stay off trails that are posted
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That seems to be the major concern. We do stay off trails that are posted
I wonder if this is a Legal 4x4 road?

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Old 03-31-2009, 07:28 PM   #7
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Looks like you are starting troublehere
All pictures of trails shown of us are on legal trails and marked as so
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What are you really thinking Burton4x4? Have something to say?
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I wonder if this is a Legal 4x4 road?

Can you please find another forum? Stop starting trouble, nothing was said about "illegal" trails was it?....I am going to bring this to the mod's attention.
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Looks like you are starting troublehere
All pictures of trails shown of us are on legal trails and marked as so
You kidding right??

99% of the photos on your photobucket page are of illegal spots.
At least we all know where all the damage came from now. Thanks.

There are only [2] legal roads for vehicles in 909.

If your confused call the Rangers or DEC forest manager.
The phone numbers are listed at the Kiosk, right next to the rules and regs.
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You kidding right??

99% of the photos on your photobucket page are of illegal spots.
At least we all know where all the damage came from now. Thanks.

There are only [2] legal roads for vehicles in 909.

If your confused call the Rangers or DEC forest manager.
The phone numbers are listed at the Kiosk, right next to the rules and regs.
You have no refrence points or land marks to show where those pictures were taken.
Are you a jeeper or just trying To cause trouble. Can we just get along and jeep in legal places?
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You kidding right??

99% of the photos on your photobucket page are of illegal spots.
At least we all know where all the damage came from now. Thanks.

There are only [2] legal roads for vehicles in 909.

If your confused call the Rangers or DEC forest manager.
The phone numbers are listed at the Kiosk, right next to the rules and regs.
hmmm, instead of calling the number, maybe I'll just knock on my neighbors door since he just happens to be a DEC forest ranger.
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Let's keep all of this on an even keel here folks. WF does not tolerate anything in regards to wildcat 4wheeling at all. I think everyone on here knows this and would not purposely post a thread to go someplace where they will be causing harm to the environment or breaking the law.
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You have no refrence points or land marks to show where those pictures were taken.
I know exactly where your pictures were taken, so does the D.E.C.
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:18 AM   #15
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Tell me Burton, Who are you? Do you own a Jeep? Are you state employee?, Club member, tree hugger?
Just trying to figure out whats going on here.
I took my picture down because I dont want people like you trying to use my pictures against me, not because of the legality of the locations
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:32 AM   #16
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Hey James..

What some folks dont understand is that 4x4's and trucks have used this forest for years.
Going back there for Hunting or Firewood has never been a problem.

Since last fall we have had a huge influx of out of towners coming up here ripping up illegal trails, driving thru wetlands, littering and just being basic idiots.

Nobody here has any problem with folks coming up and enjoying this beautiful forest.

If you know any 4x4ers who are ignorant to the rules of 909 or have no respect for the Forest , tell them to stay home!!!.

They have ruined it for everyone.

PS - You are damn right I am a tree hugger.
It's all about respecting the land that you live off of.
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The DEC is cracking down on illegal motorized activity @ 909. THERE IS ONLY 4 MILES OF LEGAL ROAD!

Ask the DEC:
The Snowmobile trails ARE NOT LEGAL FOR JEEPS, QUADS,ETC!

THE FOREST IS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE NEW JERSEY.

THE MORE YOU USE THE INTERNET AND GET MORE YAHOOS OUT THERE, THE MORE TRASH WE SEE IN THE WOODS. YOU'D OUGHT TO KNOW BETTER, JAMES!!!!!!!

STAY OFF THE SNOWMOBILE TRAIL -STOP RUTTING IT UP AND WIDENING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The DEC is cracking down on illegal motorized activity @ 909. THERE IS ONLY 4 MILES OF LEGAL ROAD!

Ask the DEC:
The Snowmobile trails ARE NOT LEGAL FOR JEEPS, QUADS,ETC!

THE FOREST IS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE NEW JERSEY.

THE MORE YOU USE THE INTERNET AND GET MORE YAHOOS OUT THERE, THE MORE TRASH WE SEE IN THE WOODS. YOU'D OUGHT TO KNOW BETTER, JAMES!!!!!!!

STAY THE FVCK OFF THE SNOWMOBILE TRAIL -STOP RUTTING IT UP AND WIDENING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PM me your phone number. I want to talk about this. When I was there we ONLY went on trails that had previous tire marks on them .As I was new to the area I was sure to STAY OFF the trails that are marked SNOWMOBILES ONLY.We followed one swamp area and continued onto the road trails. I did not and will not use the internet to encourage illegal off roading
Also. I have not been there since there was snow on the ground.

Please do not single me out as the main cause of of other peoples mistakes

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I wouldnt get to bent about it. This person obviously is just a spammer who googled 909 and got this thread. Its quite funny how we've never seen these 2 before other then this thread. The more response we give them, there worse this thread will get. IMO, Goober and Burton are the same person just looking for attention and making it appear there are more people involved. I bet that there will be more "people" posting to stay off 909 in the near future.
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I hope you right. Lets see if he has the balls to PM me his REAL number
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Yeah man I am making up multiple screen names just to mess with you.


You guys are really a great asset to the forest.
You have done wonders for this hillside.





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nice pics. got any more? Any pics of your rig wheeling? These should be in the trail section.
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Burton4x4, accusations will stop right now. I understand your anger and frustration but WF does not encourage or even allow pictures or trail reports of wildcatting. You have no proof that the wheelers here are the ones illegally wheeling. Until you do, you will cease posting directed at the specific members here or I will ban you from the forum.
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I'm sorry , I did not want to accuse anybody of anything.

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I'm sorry , I did not want to accuse anybody of anything.

Unfortunately, you did inadvertently accuse a member. Like I said, I understand your frustration and you've had your say. The 4X4 community is on your side. People who wildcat ruin it for the real enthusiasts and I sincerely hope all parties involved here and everywhere take a good hard look at where they are wheeling to make absolutely sure they are legal spots, but we are going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I've heard it's damned hard to find spots to offroad back east. The reason is people who tear up lands and don't respect property lines. Never cut a new trail, pack out more than you pack in, always clean up your messes after breakage, and above all else remember when you wheel carelessly you're giving those who want to close the lands leverage against the 4X4 community.
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Burton, I have got to ask. What is your angle on this? Are you a concerned citizen? A land owner near by? A good steward of wheeling? I can completely understand respecting the lands, we all fight very hard to keep a just a few places open. And just two days ago Obama, Pelosi and Fienstien just kicked us in the teeth. Its going to make harder to find places to go in the west now.
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Unfortunately, you did inadvertently accuse a member. .
Who did I accuse?

We are all grown men , who know what we did, and when we are doing something wrong.

When pictures of the destruction are posted up on Photobucket its like salt in the wound.

What we have learned today:
A - The DEC is cracking down on illegal motorized activity @ 909.
B- THERE IS ONLY 4 MILES OF LEGAL ROAD!
C- The Orange Snowmobile trails ARE NOT LEGAL FOR JEEPS, QUADS,ETC!
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Who did I accuse?

We are all grown men , who know what we did, and when we are doing something wrong.

When pictures of the destruction are posted up on Photobucket its like salt in the wound.

What we have learned today:
A - The DEC is cracking down on illegal motorized activity @ 909.
AS THEY SHOULD BE DOING
B- THERE IS ONLY 4 MILES OF LEGAL ROAD!
WE ARE AWARE OF THAT
C- The Orange Snowmobile trails ARE NOT LEGAL FOR JEEPS,
QUADS,ETC!
yES, THE SIGN SAYS SO

"Burton, I have got to ask. What is your angle on this? Are you a concerned citizen? A land owner near by? A good steward of wheeling"


Can you answer the above question?

And another thing, you never sent me a PM with your phone number so wa can talk about this. I will be free all day
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Burton,
Please tell me what it is that you see wrong with the pictures below.
The top pictures iare on dirt road, look around, they are commen in these parts
I also see a group of people with a commen bond shareing something they enjoy



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You have done wonders for this hillside.






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