As for the $9500... its probably not a bad deal especially taking into account the prices involved for those mods. But I would consider it for a day or so at least, and again have someone look it over good. Yeah, I would consider $9k to be a good deal without feeling like I ripped him off; but then $500 extra wouldnt break the bank either. If he wont budge in a couple days, give him your "final offer" and go from there. It does seem to be a fine jeep with what is involved. But it might be a stretch to have it as a daily driver. I hate to be definite because I cannot look at it and evaluate exactly what it is; but honestly if I had the money I would seriously consider it.
Sorry, basically, if you do buy it, and if it "pings" you will want to address that. Pinging occurs when there is too little fuel compared to the air going in, and you get pre-ignition or a "ping"; you will notice it on hard acceleration if it happens at all, and sometimes will happen with cheap regular gas. It can also help going to a midgrade-higher octane fuel.
Again, not a deal breaker for me and if you get it and have that problem, then we could address it then.
Wow steve, you just blew my mind away man....so almost everything you just said flew over my head. So would you think it's worth the 9500 that he said he'd come down to or should I sit on it and see if it cools off. I do know this. His wife and family are in Utah with the jeep....he's already moved to Wyoming and the family will follow at some point. Not sure if that situation will play in wheather or no he'd come down, however, I also don't want to rip anybody off, yes cheaper is better but I also have no problem paying what something is worth.
So in short, if it were you in my situation, knowing what you know about me....would you buy it at 9500 or wait for another rig down the road? This rig does seem set up, maybe even a little more so, than what I would like out of a rig....
Oh, and depending on the system set up that Airaid cold air intake system may be a bit of a detriment.
What happens when you open up the air input, it can change the tuning. I will assume the exhaust was not changed, so it may not be a big deal, but to do it right when you increase the air intake, you need it to leave just as easily, and when you do that then you also have to remap the injectors, or replace them with higher flow to compensate. For ideal operation things need to match and keep the air/fuel ratio within a small set of parameters. Otherwise it will ping a lot... just something to consider. I would not let that change my mind about buying it, but something to have set up right later if it pings or return it to stock equipment.
Called and talked to the guy, he's got the Ox-lockers set up on the front and rear. Looking at them online they are pretty good lockers.....they are cable ran and you have a shifter set up, one for each front/back. I also, threw out a n offer of 7k, and finally at 8k but he only budged from 9800 to 9500....saying he's already brought it down about as much as he'd like. I'll give him some time, my cousin is going to get eyes on the jeep this weekend, if still for sale. Maybe that will change my mind or maybe he'll come down from there......
Still though, get it checked out as good as you can, even if you have to pay a mechanic to do it. I would pull the diffs and look at the gears/lockers, check the tranny/TC fluids and their color, even check the oil. The color of those fluids can indicate what if any problems could be in there. Or, if they are fresh could indicate regular maint, or trying to hide a problem. Also any and all receipts would be nice.
In the end only you can really place the value; its kinda hard sometimes because there are so many individualized ones so the reality is it depends on what each mod is that you agree with and the ones that you dont agree with is something you can live with. From what I can see, the set up is good for wheeling, and as I understand it, all good mods. Good gear ratio, good strong rear, and lockers so there is some money put in it. See if you can get what lockers they have, and do a search on them to get a feel for their quality; hard top is a plus, and less than 100,000 miles. So I would think between 7-8k would be a decent price.
Steve, Thanks for your input on that jeep. I've got to say, after hearing that you really liked it too it definately turned on my spidey senses even more. I'm gonna chat with them and see if I can work em down a little bit. It does kind of seem like the perfect jeep for me though.
It needs some work but only about what I'm wanting to do to one anyways. You kill me, lol, sounds like you live in a pretty awesome place, once I get jeepin a bit maybe my boys and I could meet up with you one day and jeep some trails too, who knows.
Give you wife my best aout her stang, lol I still find myself chuckling on the inside about that. I've got to say, I've only driven the coast of Oregon but man o man is that a beautiful state.