Thanks for the e-mail bud, I'll look over it in a few. I've got to admit, I'm not a huge fan of an automatic on a jeep either....I do like the four door thing though, as it would give a nice amount of space and allow to pack for camping. I love the size and lift with the 35"s...
Not a big fan of automatics; but looks nice. Looks like the price is at book value for a car lot, and 35" tires are about 3 sizes taller. Might depend on gear ratio with that one, but should get around decently.
Is that closer to what you are looking for? 4 door, auto and such?
Great info, I would love to get that spreadsheet. Send to me at firstname.lastname@example.org Greatly appreciated. I need to keep reading up on this stuff but you're right, I need to get a rig (But the right rig too) then go from there and trial and error some stuff out too.
oh, and... Lifts and axles depend on what rig you get and what you expect to do with it. I would start with the set up you got, determine what if any more clearance you need for the tires and for what you like, and go with that. Seems to me the newer rigs require changing the coil springs, and you would need new longer shocks to go with the lift. Sometimes you need to get other proper parts if you go too high, but generally up to a 2 or 3 inch lift doesnt require much other than the longer shocks. I suspect you wont need to do anything with the axles unless you find some stress points that start breaking things, then you will know to upgrade something.
OH, btw, I have a spreadsheet calculator that calculates rpm/speeds with different gearing and tire sizes. If you want, I can email it to you; or if there is a way I can post it here, but I have not found out how to do that yet.
Im old school so I have no information about the Rubicons; but I suspect if you can get the lowest gear possible stock, then upgrading tires wont be as dramatic.
To determine the tire size requires knowing the power band of the motor and trying to get the combo to stay within that range in top gear. So say it makes power at 2000 to 5000 rpm, getting the tire/gearing in that range (probably the lower range for best MPG) for the top gear and top speed you wish to go.
For example, my jeep has 4.10 with 33" tires, and the power band is about 1500 to 3500 RPM, but I need it to go hwy speeds up to 70, so I need it to be in the middle, about 2200-2500 in fifth to keep it moving otherwise it lugs and cannot keep speed. Thats what the 4.10 was for, anything lower lugged, anything higher (numerically) revs too high for hwy speeds (for me, its kind of a preference thing)
It depends on the transmission/and TC gearing as well.
Thanks and anytime. Glad to hear your close-ish to my kneck of the woods, I love driving through Oregan to get to Washington, done it a few times and I don't hesitate to do it if given any oportunity. Oregan is an awesome drive.
Would I be better off trying to find a nice Rubicon? They come with the best stock off roading config you can get right...stock that is.
So what do I need to worry about, basically if I go 33's or 35's it sounds like I want a greaing of 4.10 or 4.53? What do I need to worry about on base, axel, shocks, lift minimum and such...like what would a nice ideal set up be? Is it possible to have a badd-A## jeep that drives well on the road too? or do I sacrifice too much one for the other?
But to me it sounds like it may be a small range that would work for you; as you may know even the stock Jeeps do pretty well on the off road assuming no rock crawling or really rough stuff, so you may be very fine with a stock to slightly modified rig keeping in mind some things need to be considered with certain mods. Like the oversized tire idea, its nice for clearance and traction; but the gear ratio should be adequate as well or youre stressing things. One thing you could do is just find one you like for a decent price, and go for it. Worse case you find it doesnt quite fit what you want to do and then you can modify it or sell it and find the one the does fit. Knowledge is power, literally in this case.
BTW... Thank you for your service! I have a soft spot for our military personnel.