Eric -- That is quite surprising. I had the opposite experience at Prestige. I got every cheap line there from "TODAY is the best day of the month to buy a new Jeep" to "Well, somebody else is also looking to make a deal on this particular Jeep today." I didn't have a whole lot better eperience at Chapman Jeep, but it was better. I've actually found a salesperson at Chapman Dodge over on East Sahara who doesn't rub me the wrong way. I'm planning on ordering a '13 soon. I agree, I can live with 1% under invoice with the TreadLightly discount. I just can't figure out whether Billet Metallic can be ordered yet. Thanks for your response. If Chapman Dodge doesn't work out, I'll contact that Rennie Roopchand you mentioned. Thanks, Steve.