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07-20-2011 02:54 PM
chinrichs The Jeetops are about twice as dark as the privacy glass from Mopar, with the UV protection they provide its like having an outstanding pair of high end sunglasses to look through.
07-20-2011 12:33 PM
chinrichs Glad to have you all talking about this again. The material used for Jeetops, is an impact modified acrylic, and they are permanently bonded, air and water tight. they are also tinted and will reduce the cabin temperature, because they don't absorb anywhere near as much heat as the stock black spatter painted top. There would really be no need for your stock freedom top, once you have them. Just leave them on rain or shine. Or pop them off just like you would if you had stock tops for open are wheeling.
07-19-2011 03:50 PM
oilwell1415
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Originally Posted by desertgoose View Post
Well said. F-16 cockpit windows are also made of Acrylic.(solid acrylic I'm told) The reason Polycarb parts are more expensive is because it is processed at higher temps, takes more additives to stabilize for heat and weathering, more sensitive to moisture and needs to be dried before processing. However, Acrylic itself is not as "heavy" as polycarb, generally you need a thicker piece of Acrylic to achieve the same impact resistance of Polycarb.
And you have to hardcoat polycarb to give it any scratch resistance at all. In an application like this it would have to be on both sides as well. Even then the hardcoat is only as durable as the substrate because that controls how well the coating sticks.
07-19-2011 03:38 PM
desertgoose My bad, a little off topic. Those clear tops would not sell much here. We are trying to insulate our hardtops due to the heat. I wouldn't want to let more light in.

I checked their website, is it an optical illusion that the clear windows look about a square foot when they show photos from outside and about the size of the whole panel from the inside?
07-19-2011 03:33 PM
desertgoose
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Originally Posted by oilwell1415 View Post
This is not entirely accurate. If you go to the store and buy acrylic and hit it with a hammer, yes it will shatter. However, nobody in their right mind would make anything that needed to be durable out of regular acrylic. The little known secret is that if you heat a sheet of acrylic up to about 400 degrees and stretch it to about four times its original surface area it becomes much more usable. Stretched acrylic is a great material for something like this. It has all the attributes of polycarbonate, but while maintaining the scratch resistance, chemical and dimensional stability and UV resistant properties of acrylic. This is the stuff they make light lenses on airliners from and it will take a bird strike in flight. The only real penalty of acrylic is weight, but that isn't an issue here. On an airliner some of the lenses use a thin layer of stretched acrylic fused over a thicker load bearing sheet of polycarbonate to reduce the weight. I don't see how that is worth the expense, but it's not my money or airplane. If I was going to build panels like these stretched acrylic is what I would use.
Well said. F-16 cockpit windows are also made of Acrylic.(solid acrylic I'm told) The reason Polycarb parts are more expensive is because it is processed at higher temps, takes more additives to stabilize for heat and weathering, more sensitive to moisture and needs to be dried before processing. However, Acrylic itself is not as "heavy" as polycarb, generally you need a thicker piece of Acrylic to achieve the same impact resistance of Polycarb.
07-19-2011 03:18 PM
thenorsepole
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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
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07-19-2011 03:07 PM
ppzi I like these and might pay a grand IF they were their own separate panels that could function as replacements.
I also do have a Wade skytop and the whole family loves it. It really does cut down the heat and wind while making you feel like things are open.
I think I would like a combo of these two products best; something that was a single sheet of acrylic (or stretched acryilc ) that anchored in the same way the front Freedom Top panels do, and was waterproof.
-Pete
07-19-2011 02:40 PM
oilwell1415
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Originally Posted by NHrubicon View Post
Definitely not acrylic...or the hammer would have shattered it. Lexan (polycarbonate) is probably what they are made of. I own a graphic sign shop...and learned years ago that signs made with acrylic have a short life span-made to die young and get replaced all the time. Even freezing and getting hit can shatter them...polycarb, although more expensive...outlasts acrylic by years and years.
This is not entirely accurate. If you go to the store and buy acrylic and hit it with a hammer, yes it will shatter. However, nobody in their right mind would make anything that needed to be durable out of regular acrylic. The little known secret is that if you heat a sheet of acrylic up to about 400 degrees and stretch it to about four times its original surface area it becomes much more usable. Stretched acrylic is a great material for something like this. It has all the attributes of polycarbonate, but while maintaining the scratch resistance, chemical and dimensional stability and UV resistant properties of acrylic. This is the stuff they make light lenses on airliners from and it will take a bird strike in flight. The only real penalty of acrylic is weight, but that isn't an issue here. On an airliner some of the lenses use a thin layer of stretched acrylic fused over a thicker load bearing sheet of polycarbonate to reduce the weight. I don't see how that is worth the expense, but it's not my money or airplane. If I was going to build panels like these stretched acrylic is what I would use.
07-19-2011 02:31 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by SlackerMD

Cool concept and FAIRLY decent cost for someone who just happens to be in need of replacement panels, but priced way high for someone who already has the panels. (There are always just too many other mods in queue and the price just pushes this one way down the priority chain)
Yep
07-19-2011 02:05 PM
SlackerMD
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Originally Posted by chinrichs View Post
The price quoted is for one panel everyone. That puts replacement cost at $900 for a set, without the benfit of the Jeetops panel. Here is onother link from another site Jeep Hardtops by Mopar for your Jeep Wrangler JK & Wrangler Unlimited JK from your Jeep Parts Specialist with a bargain on an OEM panels the pair are just $828.98 ()without the shipping. So your in the vacinity of around $400 for the upgrade. They are warrantied not to leak or break for 5 years/50,000 miles. The rear panels are available now as well. Visit www.jeetops.com
Cool concept and FAIRLY decent cost for someone who just happens to be in need of replacement panels, but priced way high for someone who already has the panels. (There are always just too many other mods in queue and the price just pushes this one way down the priority chain)
07-19-2011 12:35 PM
El Gringo its an interesting idea, but they use your tops...
Wade makes this:
Skytop Sun Roof Wade Jeep Wrangler JK

Its pretty close, definately not water-tight, but you don't lose your panels and is cheaper.
I like the idea, but I have a soft top so not appealing here. My mom wants the wade top so its like having a sun-roof without the direct sunshine. (it's super hot here)
07-19-2011 12:21 PM
chinrichs
Jeetops

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Originally Posted by rics1997 View Post
Factory front panels on Quadratic are $459 so I would say $600 but that price is pushing it IMO.
The price quoted is for one panel everyone. That puts replacement cost at $900 for a set, without the benfit of the Jeetops panel. Here is onother link from another site Jeep Hardtops by Mopar for your Jeep Wrangler JK & Wrangler Unlimited JK from your Jeep Parts Specialist with a bargain on an OEM panels the pair are just $828.98 ()without the shipping. So your in the vacinity of around $400 for the upgrade. They are warrantied not to leak or break for 5 years/50,000 miles. The rear panels are available now as well. Visit www.jeetops.com
02-07-2011 07:05 PM
FlyinJeeps Like everyone else, I'd say around $500-600 tops.

I'd rather see a one piece clear acrylic, that covers the front seats but is almost all transparent in the middle. It looks funny having 2 moonroofs like that IMO

I bet you could get a factory in china pushing out some moulds pretty easily, hint hint aftermarket people..
02-07-2011 03:40 PM
tkljr
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Originally Posted by TrueNorth View Post
How do these differ from the WADE Sky Top panels for JK that came out back in 2008?
Looks to me like the Skytop is for a soft top JK.
The incredibly expensive panels being discussed here are for hard tops.


Tom
02-07-2011 02:41 PM
Cons_Table
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Originally Posted by j33pZ View Post
I just got my magnifying glass out and I can now see that there are tiny pictures of something there....
Thats what she said...
02-07-2011 02:31 PM
TrueNorth How do these differ from the WADE Sky Top panels for JK that came out back in 2008?

Other than the obvious vast difference in price...

Skytop Front Impact Acrylic High Gloss Smoke*WAP-51062 by the Jeep Specialists at Morris 4x4 Center
02-03-2011 06:08 PM
j33pZ I just got my magnifying glass out and I can now see that there are tiny pictures of something there....
02-03-2011 05:32 PM
rics1997 I was interested before I heard the details. Would not even consider this especially seeing I have to use my own top. Might see the reason they would have to price it at this amount if they were providing a new top but they are off their rocker with that price and i have to risk my top.
02-03-2011 05:08 PM
PecosRiver Even before the price was revealed, I wasn't interested. After seeing the price,
02-03-2011 04:52 PM
seadog Definitely not on my "must have" list. I can better spend that money on making her trail worthy.
02-03-2011 04:45 PM
jeepnpete Its a skylight for a Jeep! I feel if I can't take the top off, then I don't want to look up
02-03-2011 04:30 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by Pat@FieldsJeep
. . . .they want us to have a retail price of $1295.00

I think that is way out of the ball park considering they are not replacements, they take your current panels and put in the glass. . . .
02-03-2011 04:20 PM
pat@fieldsauto.com thanks for the input. I agree too, they want us to have a retail price of $1295.00

I think that is way out of the ball park considering they are not replacements, they take your current panels and put in the glass.

They asked me if we wanted to be a preferred dealer, I politely declined.
02-03-2011 03:03 PM
NHrubicon Definitely not acrylic...or the hammer would have shattered it. Lexan (polycarbonate) is probably what they are made of. I own a graphic sign shop...and learned years ago that signs made with acrylic have a short life span-made to die young and get replaced all the time. Even freezing and getting hit can shatter them...polycarb, although more expensive...outlasts acrylic by years and years.
Looks like a neat idea...but I agree with JeeperJake...I don't want to see the rain coming down on me...would be too distracting. And my WIFE wouldn't want the ringside seating to watch lightning!
02-03-2011 02:49 PM
jrohan07 I must have these...question is how much are you paying for them?
02-03-2011 02:40 PM
RaiderRUBICON I don't like the idea, I think most Jeepers are going to say things like , "should I get a new bumper or the glass on the T-tops?" or "should I get a new tires or the glass...?"

The bottom line is ,I don't think it will be high on anybody's priority list when purchasing aftermarket parts.

Also,what would be the warranty on the product??

AJ
02-03-2011 02:33 PM
Closer I love it! Checking out the site..
02-03-2011 02:24 PM
pat@fieldsauto.com here's the companies website.


JeeTops
01-12-2011 08:08 PM
Blstravler I cant tell from the pics, are the panels for the front 2 and the rear? Would love that for the JKU.
01-12-2011 07:56 PM
KooL That is a very neat idea. It'd be cool to see them in person because it's kind of hard to make out a whole lot from the pics. Kind of hard to photograph a window though I guess. haha.
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