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02-13-2011 01:06 PM
Creeper Well I emailed RC and BDS with my jeeps model and year and specs. Waiting for a response from both. I am honestly leaning towards Rough Country. It just looks like better quality to me. I am not picking sides though. I'm sure both are quality lifts. Just my opinion so far. The guy installing my lift apparently is an avid mechanic and swears up and down on skyjacker but it honestly looks like a shit kit and i hear nothing but bad about it. So i'm not listening to him. Lol
02-13-2011 01:02 PM
Gate53 Here's the one I decided on for my Jeep: 3" TJ Suspension System

Good luck with your shopping.
02-13-2011 12:42 PM
Jeepoffroad04
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Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
1997-2006 Jeep Wrangler TJ.75" lift kit 415H | BDS Suspension

Click the 3" link

I was seriously looking into this before making my own lift. It is extremely complete, has very well balanced shocks for up/down travel, about 4.5" both ways. Comes with front and rear swaybar links, the front disconnects are very nice from what I've read, some say they are the best.

BDS also has a lifetime "No BS" warranty where if something breaks they replace it without questions. I don't know how well they actually hold up to that though. Do a little research and you'll see little to nothing negative said about BDS lifts.

Couple this 3" SL with a 1" BL (if you end up needing it or not, this lift comes with 2" BS which should let you run 33s with 3" without a problem, you might be able to shave 0.5" off the bumpstops and still not have clearance problems, at least not with the shocks) and you'll have a sweet setup and some extra change for other goodies
Of course you talk him into getting a 3" lift again. by the way rc is not crap. Rc is a hell uva lot better than bds

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02-13-2011 11:47 AM
MikalCarbine 1997-2006 Jeep Wrangler TJ.75" lift kit 415H | BDS Suspension

Click the 3" link

I was seriously looking into this before making my own lift. It is extremely complete, has very well balanced shocks for up/down travel, about 4.5" both ways. Comes with front and rear swaybar links, the front disconnects are very nice from what I've read, some say they are the best.

BDS also has a lifetime "No BS" warranty where if something breaks they replace it without questions. I don't know how well they actually hold up to that though. Do a little research and you'll see little to nothing negative said about BDS lifts.

Couple this 3" SL with a 1" BL (if you end up needing it or not, this lift comes with 2" BS which should let you run 33s with 3" without a problem, you might be able to shave 0.5" off the bumpstops and still not have clearance problems, at least not with the shocks) and you'll have a sweet setup and some extra change for other goodies
02-13-2011 11:30 AM
Creeper
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Originally Posted by MikalCarbine View Post
I'm still saying stick with the BDS 3", it's about $800, quality, lifetime warranty and you'll have money to spare. RC is crap
do you have a link?
02-13-2011 11:24 AM
MikalCarbine I'm still saying stick with the BDS 3", it's about $800, quality, lifetime warranty and you'll have money to spare. RC is crap
02-13-2011 11:18 AM
GoldenSahara00 Sure, but its rough country. I have heard that have gotten better quality lately but have not seen it. I saw a black jk with a rough county lift that looked pretty nice the other day, and I say If you dont plan on going to crazy, go for it.
02-13-2011 10:56 AM
Creeper I think I may have found the one. I mean, I'll probably be looking for the rest of this week as I'm waiting for my paycheck to arrive, but this one seems reasonable and I've read quite a few good things about rough country.

So here's what i plan on adding to this kit (at the bottom of the page) The NP231 SYE,
steering stabilizer, and the perf 2.2 shock upgrade. Think that this will suit me well?

Jeep TJ Suspension Lift
02-13-2011 10:03 AM
Creeper
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Originally Posted by T2000J View Post
Just because the kit runs $1200 dose not mean its a good kit your paying for a name trust me . For $1200 you can have a good lift with a sye .
All lifts are going to have there up's and downs
That's good advice, definately making me re-think some things.
02-13-2011 08:55 AM
T2000J Just because the kit runs $1200 dose not mean its a good kit your paying for a name trust me . For $1200 you can have a good lift with a sye .
All lifts are going to have there up's and downs
02-12-2011 11:32 PM
Jeepoffroad04
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
you probably NEED sye with the procomp lift

jeep offroad is probably right about them being good, Ive never owned one of their lifts so I can not comment, only what I have heard. which we all know what that means.
thanks i never ran pro comp anything either but im in a jeep club and hear nothing but good stuff about procomp all the time so ill stick by there opinions i geuss
02-12-2011 11:15 PM
GoldenSahara00 wish I didnt type so slow
02-12-2011 11:14 PM
GoldenSahara00 you probably NEED sye with the procomp lift

jeep offroad is probably right about them being good, Ive never owned one of their lifts so I can not comment, only what I have heard. which we all know what that means.
02-12-2011 11:12 PM
Jeepoffroad04
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Originally Posted by Creeper View Post
The problem with that pro-comp kit is i dont see a tcase lowering option... what would i do about that?
buy a sye then your good to go
02-12-2011 11:09 PM
Creeper The problem with that pro-comp kit is i dont see a tcase lowering option... what would i do about that?
02-12-2011 11:01 PM
Jeepoffroad04
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Originally Posted by Creeper View Post
I'm not a serious offroader "yet" :P Think about it, how many people are serious offroaders when they are buying their first lift! Give me a chance
i was hooked on offroading the day i bought my jeep. the pro comp lift is great especially if you are thinkin about doin some seriose offroadin in the future. pro comp is probably one of the best brands around you will be more than satisfied with that lift.
02-12-2011 11:00 PM
GoldenSahara00 Ive heard the quote "stay away from anything that says procomp" too many times. but if its your first kit, I wouldnt blow a bunch of money on it. just like you dont buy a porshe as your first car. you buy a beater than save some money. you get my point.

And true, but you can easily offroad with a stock jeep :P
02-12-2011 10:51 PM
Creeper I'm not a serious offroader "yet" :P Think about it, how many people are serious offroaders when they are buying their first lift! Give me a chance
02-12-2011 10:49 PM
Creeper Okay, what is your opinions on this kit for my situation :P

4" Stage II Lift Kit with ES3000 Shocks by Pro Comp and Other Jeep Parts and Jeep Accessories by 4 Wheel Drive Hardware-RH2
02-12-2011 10:46 PM
GoldenSahara00 Tcase drop only affects how high the case is off the ground, but not the actually lift of the rest of the vehicle. So for people who do mostly trails and mud, and dont get stuff up under the jeep much, a tcase drop isnt as bad as it would be for a rock crawler, right?

creeper I would take a look at the zone kits, and save the rest of your money until you learn a little more about all the stuff need to do a proper lift. Wait to RE to get back in business (they are only shut down temp from what I hear) then purchase the lift you were looking at. or better yet since your not a serious offroader, invest the money in something else.

zone is made by bds
02-12-2011 10:41 PM
Jeepoffroad04
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Originally Posted by Bubba68CS View Post
While I went on a bit of a rant about it, I really wouldn't go that far. The TJ belly skid really does hang down a ways stock (and thats worse with a LWB LJ). If you compare it dropped to a tummy tuck, you really are losing a lot of clearance...so I definitely see AzTJ's (and many others on this forum) point. And I do like that people like AzTJ give advice on how to do it right rather than cutting a ton of corners. Its just when working on a budget, its nice to differentiate what is absolutely necessary and what can wait.
ya i just was letting him get an idea on what to spend greenies on you know aztj deffinetly has better knowledge than me on jeeps
02-12-2011 10:39 PM
AzTJ
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Originally Posted by Creeper View Post
thank you az for your time and opinions. this is really helping me. I will continue looking and if i find a kit i feel is suitable i will message you and get your opinion. if you dont mind :P
Not at all, but we are all here to help.
02-12-2011 10:35 PM
Bubba68CS
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Originally Posted by Jeepoffroad04 View Post
ya that is true about RE sorry bud. but if i was you and dont do a whole lot of off roading then t-case drop is the way to go aztj seems to think everyone is a hardcore offroader that 1" is going to make a hell uva difference
While I went on a bit of a rant about it, I really wouldn't go that far. The TJ belly skid really does hang down a ways stock (and thats worse with a LWB LJ). If you compare it dropped to a tummy tuck, you really are losing a lot of clearance...so I definitely see AzTJ's (and many others on this forum) point. And I do like that people like AzTJ give advice on how to do it right rather than cutting a ton of corners. Its just when working on a budget, its nice to differentiate what is absolutely necessary and what can wait.
02-12-2011 10:35 PM
Jeepoffroad04
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Originally Posted by Creeper View Post
I really have no clue what to do. I get convinced on a lift kit and then someone says something that demolishes my hopes and dreams lol. Honestly i just need someone to send me somewhere that has a lift kit with everything i need for my 2003 jeep wrangler sahara to go from stock. To be able to put the 33 12.50 bfg with 15x10 ultra 164 model matte black wheels on and drive back and forth to work and do minimal offroading occasionally. For a reasonable price (being around $1,200 to $1,500ish)

I have already ordered the wheels and tires so this is going to be happening soonish. That is why I'm so consistent with this lol.
i feel you man i had the same problem when i first ordered my rims but i would really consider lookin at 4wd.com and goin throught there lift kits its all i can offer at this point
02-12-2011 10:34 PM
Creeper thank you az for your time and opinions. this is really helping me. I will continue looking and if i find a kit i feel is suitable i will message you and get your opinion. if you dont mind :P
02-12-2011 10:32 PM
AzTJ
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Originally Posted by Jeepoffroad04 View Post
aztj seems to think everyone is a hardcore offroader that 1" is going to make a hell uva difference


Why pay $800+ for a 4" lift when it's only 3"? That's all I'm saying.


In all honesty Creeper, get any 3" lift that has a t-case drop included as well as lower control arms and you should be good to go.
02-12-2011 10:28 PM
Creeper I really have no clue what to do. I get convinced on a lift kit and then someone says something that demolishes my hopes and dreams lol. Honestly i just need someone to send me somewhere that has a lift kit with everything i need for my 2003 jeep wrangler sahara to go from stock. To be able to put the 33 12.50 bfg with 15x10 ultra 164 model matte black wheels on and drive back and forth to work and do minimal offroading occasionally. For a reasonable price (being around $1,200 to $1,500ish)

I have already ordered the wheels and tires so this is going to be happening soonish. That is why I'm so consistent with this lol.
02-12-2011 10:23 PM
Jeepoffroad04 ya that is true about RE sorry bud. but if i was you and dont do a whole lot of off roading then t-case drop is the way to go aztj seems to think everyone is a hardcore offroader that 1" is going to make a hell uva difference
02-12-2011 10:20 PM
Creeper
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Originally Posted by aztj View Post
one thing to mention rubicon express is closed for the time being. Unless the retailer has these products in stock and on the shelf, you probably won't be getting them any time soon.

And i can tell you that 4x4groupbuy does not stock these items.

fml...
02-12-2011 10:16 PM
AzTJ
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Originally Posted by Creeper View Post
Okay so, in your opinion, the $200 difference in these two kits...which would you chose? I think i know your answer but I'm curious.

http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/rub...19a8d7830f82ef

Rubicon Express RE7000-3 3.5 Super-Flex Kit & SYE Combo
One thing to mention Rubicon Express is CLOSED for the time being. Unless the retailer has these products in stock and on the shelf, you probably won't be getting them any time soon.

And I can tell you that 4x4groupBuy does not stock these items.
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