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03-24-2011 11:00 PM
Jreed08013
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Originally Posted by Pmedg
I'll def look into that, what would be considered a fair warranty?
I don't have much experience, but make sure their warranty backs up rust. I believe some places will only fix it if the metal actually rusts through. If you find a local place, call and ask about their warranty and talk to your boss to see if he approves.
03-24-2011 03:42 PM
GroundHawg Yeah you can run soft tops in a car wash. Just avoid the ones that use brushes and stuff.

Power wash manual or auto car washes only
03-24-2011 03:29 PM
topher38 the saddest thing is that with your car yes you need salt so you dont get suck. with your jeep you dont get stuck.

but back to the right topic. i normally use the car wash by my house that has an under carriage sprayer after i go and hose it down with the power washer. it cost about 10 bucks 1 to 2 times a week but if it makes my jeep survive the rust for a little longer its all worth it
03-24-2011 03:14 PM
techflork I have a softtop. The manual....yeah i read the fing manual! first time in my life i've ever read instructions but it said not to take it in the car wash so you gotta wash it yourself with soap. People still go to the car wash with soft tops?
03-24-2011 02:55 PM
Pmedg I'll def look into that, what would be considered a fair warranty?
03-24-2011 02:10 PM
Jreed08013
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Originally Posted by Pmedg
What would be the best way to protect a brand new jeep. my boss is taking delivery of a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition Saturday and he wants to be proactive about keeping it rust free.
You could take it to a local rust proofing business, but make sure they have a fair warranty.
03-23-2011 04:06 PM
Pmedg What would be the best way to protect a brand new jeep. my boss is taking delivery of a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit Edition Saturday and he wants to be proactive about keeping it rust free.
03-23-2011 03:56 PM
GroundHawg Yeah you know it. It sucks. People think I'm full of it that crap rusts here that fast

You can ruin a car here in 5 years if you don't wash it ever or rattle can it
03-23-2011 03:48 PM
Jreed08013
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Originally Posted by GroundHawg View Post
I've lived in northeast Ohio all my life. As anyone in the Great Lakes region will tell you...we get serious snow. 5" or more each storm is the norm, and it comes anytime between Halloween to May. That's worse case...8 months of salty driving.

Trust me...you won't beat rust. It's a constant battle. Only way to beat it is wash the vehicle after each drive. That's impossible with highs below freezing.

Think of salt exactly like you do mud. After muddin, you need to clean it off. It's abrasive, moist, and sticks everywhere and gets into crazy places. Same with salt. Just like with mud, you can spray whatever you want on a vehicle...cooking spray, Vaseline, whatever, and you STILL need to wash the Jeep. It's all a waste of money.

Now it's not uncommon to see rust on vehicles after 1 winter here here's what we do...

When you see rust don't panic. It's never a problem till it starts cracking or puts a hole in stuff. The trick is to nab it when it starts. We hit it with a rough sand paper. Clean it all up nice. Then blast it with Krylon any welds or metal you see hit with Krylon.

1 "rust inspection" a year is all it takes, a few rattle can and a roll of sand paper...your vehicle will never die of a rust attack.
I know what you mean, I'm from Michigan so I feel your pain. My dad got a 1990 Suburban from Montana, and he had it here for 1 winter and the fenders were all rusted out. It's sad because most of the time it snows here they don't even plow, the just salt it.
03-22-2011 08:11 PM
GroundHawg I've lived in northeast Ohio all my life. As anyone in the Great Lakes region will tell you...we get serious snow. 5" or more each storm is the norm, and it comes anytime between Halloween to May. That's worse case...8 months of salty driving.

Trust me...you won't beat rust. It's a constant battle. Only way to beat it is wash the vehicle after each drive. That's impossible with highs below freezing.

Think of salt exactly like you do mud. After muddin, you need to clean it off. It's abrasive, moist, and sticks everywhere and gets into crazy places. Same with salt. Just like with mud, you can spray whatever you want on a vehicle...cooking spray, Vaseline, whatever, and you STILL need to wash the Jeep. It's all a waste of money.

Now it's not uncommon to see rust on vehicles after 1 winter here here's what we do...

When you see rust don't panic. It's never a problem till it starts cracking or puts a hole in stuff. The trick is to nab it when it starts. We hit it with a rough sand paper. Clean it all up nice. Then blast it with Krylon any welds or metal you see hit with Krylon.

1 "rust inspection" a year is all it takes, a few rattle can and a roll of sand paper...your vehicle will never die of a rust attack.
03-22-2011 07:54 PM
99jeeper
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Originally Posted by Peepers View Post
Did this recently. best suggestion would be a self service car was once a week or so and make sure you spray the under carrage well.

an additional suggestion would be to drill 2 1/2" - 5/8" holes on the bottom of each frame rail, one where the front bends up to go over the axel, and one where the rear bends up to go over the axel. My 98 didn't have holes and the frame rusted out from the inside.

If you do have holes, make sure you spray water into the frame to rinse any salt out of their.
x2,i cram the nozzel of the sprayer into the frame holes best i can and try to watch for clear water.they love to drop salt alot around here also!
03-22-2011 07:42 PM
Jreed08013
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Originally Posted by skeeter
Get your government to quit using deicer that eats your vehicles.
They're too poor :/
03-11-2011 07:22 AM
skeeter Get your government to quit using deicer that eats your vehicles.
02-23-2011 02:52 PM
GoldenSahara00 2000 wrangler that looks great, wash it when you can... big issue people dont realise is if you wash the underbody all the time, your constantly putting more water up under there. metal cant rust without water. so it the temp stays in the 20s for a couple months, dont wash. only do regular washes when its thawing and freezing repeatedly. I do also believe my jeep had some type of liner put on it, but I have honestly never looked under the body of another jeep like mine to tell you how much is done. everything seems to have a rough black texture on it, which doesnt appear stock.


anyways, if your that worried, store it for the winter newer jeeps past I think 86? are made with better metal that doesnt rust as easy. Im not positive on that year...
02-23-2011 02:41 PM
adaredevil89 best option is to take it to a specialist who does undercoating. I have a 1995 F150 and got it undercoated when i bought it. I've only had to replace the running board supports, and other than that no major rust. The only problem is you have to find a good new undercoating since the one i used is no longer in production due to the darn EPA.
02-18-2011 08:06 PM
zeus8582 Wash the damn thing everyday!!!! That's all I can say.... I used to live in south bend,IN.... And the wind chill would be like 15 below and I'd be out freezing my rear off! People driving by rubber necking, thinking look at that idiot freezing to death washing his truck!!!!!
02-18-2011 12:56 AM
Mitchness I'll observe a moment of silence for all the Jeeps east of the Mississippi.
02-17-2011 10:03 PM
Jreed08013
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Originally Posted by TjFee

Define this, Fluid Film like substance?
Name?
Cost?

Or you can go to Wal-mart buy some Underbody coating for 4 bucks a can i bought 8 and did whole underbody..
it is a rubberized coating that will come off if you scrape it off.. and it dosent come off too hard.. but no rust so far..

From what I've learned so far is that it forms a barrier so nothing can stick to it. I've seen prices for a can online for $10, but I guess they sell it John deere. Idk if it works, but all the reviews are pretty good. It has a website but I'm not on my computer so I can't find it. But you can find it on google if you want.
02-17-2011 05:44 PM
TjFee
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Originally Posted by hunting080189 View Post
Yea I'm from south jersey they use salt. Had problems with the rockers on my old truck rusting and the frame. With the newer truck I got been using this fluid film not even a sign of even surface rust on the frame yet so I think it must be working.

Define this, Fluid Film like substance?
Name?
Cost?


Or you can go to Wal-mart buy some Underbody coating for 4 bucks a can i bought 8 and did whole underbody..
it is a rubberized coating that will come off if you scrape it off.. and it dosent come off too hard.. but no rust so far..
02-17-2011 05:42 PM
Jreed08013
Quote:
Originally Posted by hunting080189
Yea I'm from south jersey they use salt. Had problems with the rockers on my old truck rusting and the frame. With the newer truck I got been using this fluid film not even a sign of even surface rust on the frame yet so I think it must be working.
Wow I gotta try that. How often do you respray it?
02-17-2011 10:58 AM
hunting080189 Yea I'm from south jersey they use salt. Had problems with the rockers on my old truck rusting and the frame. With the newer truck I got been using this fluid film not even a sign of even surface rust on the frame yet so I think it must be working.
02-16-2011 06:23 PM
Jreed08013
Quote:
Originally Posted by hunting080189
The company fluid film makes a great product to spray the underside of the vehicle it doesn't allow stuff to stick to the frame works good used it on
my truck and the company gives out a free sample to try it out suppose to last up to 6 months before you need to recoat it comes in a spray can easy to apply.
Hmmm. That's a new one. Are you from a state that uses salt? Have you had any problems with rust?
02-15-2011 10:15 PM
hunting080189 The company fluid film makes a great product to spray the underside of the vehicle it doesn't allow stuff to stick to the frame works good used it on
my truck and the company gives out a free sample to try it out suppose to last up to 6 months before you need to recoat it comes in a spray can easy to apply.
01-06-2011 11:11 AM
Peepers
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_the_engineer View Post
My approach is more reactive than proactive. It involves a wire brush and POR 15.
Did this recently. best suggestion would be a self service car was once a week or so and make sure you spray the under carrage well.

an additional suggestion would be to drill 2 1/2" - 5/8" holes on the bottom of each frame rail, one where the front bends up to go over the axel, and one where the rear bends up to go over the axel. My 98 didn't have holes and the frame rusted out from the inside.

If you do have holes, make sure you spray water into the frame to rinse any salt out of their.
01-06-2011 10:53 AM
XJ Knight Fighting salt is a losing battle.. Get to the automated car was once or twice a week is all you can really do.. There are some protection things that work as well but for the most part the car wash is your friend
01-06-2011 10:44 AM
coolbreeze Park over a lawn sprinkler. Turn it on
01-05-2011 12:25 PM
Foxmotorsport I bought my 97 this past summer, never been undercoated at all, but aside from normal scale its not bad. I havent driven it much in the winter as I have a company vehicle, but I do have POR15 ready to go when I can find a free weekend. After the POR, I plan on using a wax based undercoating on everything, and then prolly monthly trips thru the carwash will hopefully keep it in check.
01-04-2011 08:22 PM
Lawngnome This fall I sprayed rust reformer on most of the frame and exposed areas of rust. I plan on using Por 15 this spring to stop what has started but you can only do so much. On days that reach above freezing I do a car wash to get the salt buildup off.
01-04-2011 08:16 PM
VVCG33 Carwash a couple times a month. I go to the self spray with the high pressure hoses and blast the crap out of the underside.
01-04-2011 08:13 PM
computeruser You don't. It is just a matter of time. Regular washes help, but only so much. You can usually expect 6-7 years w/o rust, then it's downhill from there.
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