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09-22-2007 02:40 PM
4point
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Originally Posted by Tj Bunch View Post
4 Were you in Fresno on saturday with The Top Off?
No, I've been stuck in Vegas for a while now. I'll be there till Jan-Feb now. This is my first weekend back in a couple of weeks.
09-18-2007 11:37 AM
daddyjeep We use extension cords for welders here at work, but they are very heavy duty cords. I would build a better cord. Buy the wire and the ends so it isn't just spliced and taped together. If you are going to go through all that trouble...why not just wire in a 220 outlet. It is really quite simple.
09-17-2007 06:09 PM
Tj Bunch 4 Were you in Fresno on saturday with The Top Off?
09-17-2007 04:49 PM
rebelBullDawg325 i'd say get a generator if you can
09-16-2007 09:26 PM
4point
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Originally Posted by whitebuffalo View Post
20 amps into 30 shouldn't be a problem. u mean vice versa right? or am i too tired and my brain is fried?
It may not be worded as eloquently as a code book would explain, but yes your brain is fried.
09-16-2007 08:23 PM
Hackle When Joe opened his shop I went to Home Depot and bought a 10-3 extension cord with twist lock cord caps on it. I then cut the female end off and installed a four square box to install the welder plug in. It has worked great for 3 years and gives him plenty of room to move the welder around the shop. The cord was not that expensive. BTW romex is not a safe cord.
Jim
09-16-2007 08:13 PM
whitebuffalo
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Originally Posted by 4point View Post
5. A 20amp appliance plugged into a 30amp outlet would in theory overheat/burn-up before the breaker trips.

20 amps into 30 shouldn't be a problem. u mean vice versa right? or am i too tired and my brain is fried?
09-15-2007 12:28 PM
4point 1. A dryer outlet is rated for 30A its normally run on 10ga wire. The breaker will not trip until the rated amperage it reached.
2. 12ga wire is rated for 20A max, no matter what the voltage is.
3. Yellow romex is 12ga wire.
4. all splices should be in a box rated for splicing, with a cover.
5. A 20amp appliance plugged into a 30amp outlet would in theory overheat/burn-up before the breaker trips.
6. A long cord 40' as you mentioned would be just fine as long as its rated for the amperage and weather/environment its in.
7. The most important is: YOU CANNOT INSTALL A LARGER BREAKER ON AN EXISTING CIRCUIT AND EXPECT TO HOLD THE NEW AMPERAGE. THIS WILL BE A FIRE HAZZARD.

Also, romex is not an extension cord.

09-14-2007 10:35 PM
Tj Bunch Noise just run the 22o and then you will have 220 in both spots for welding then the welder is more versital. I'm no construction guy but that should no be to difficult.
09-14-2007 09:43 PM
hardy1531 Noise, I would be very careful with that set up. I have seen houses burn down from a table lamp, when the 20 ft ext cord got too hot.
My suggestions,

1.Sell it to me for shipping.
2.Run 220 like you know you want too. (in you house now and then again when you build the garage.
3. Buy a generator, you never know when one would come in handy
4. Be like scout, park your Jeep in the Kitchen. Remove the stove and use that outlet.

Thats all I have for now.
Hardy
09-14-2007 07:26 PM
debruins yeah at least 60 feet back or with a helmet, even if u have ur eyes closed it can burn em, if ur close
09-14-2007 03:01 PM
MouthfulOfGrass You know you're not supposed to look directly at the light when someone is welding. Your high school shop teacher is going to be so dissappointed.
09-14-2007 02:51 PM
dbwvu MY EYES!!!!!!
09-14-2007 01:47 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by Dare2BSquare View Post
Just plug it into 2 - 110 outlets.

110 + 110 = 220

^^ Yeah, what he said! ^^

"220, 221, whatever it takes.."

"Beer?"
"It's 7 o clock in the morning!"
"Scotch then?"

09-14-2007 01:37 PM
noise Thanks for all the comments folks but I went ahead and took bernm8r's advise

Very WT but.....


09-14-2007 01:25 PM
Dare2BSquare Just plug it into 2 - 110 outlets.

110 + 110 = 220

09-14-2007 12:06 PM
sgnellett
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Originally Posted by whitebuffalo View Post
take the internals out. turn welder chassis into scooter. use internals to power electric fence. build electric fence around a track to race ur scooter/welder on. when u lose control.....it will be funny. for me. so please videotape as well
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Originally Posted by noise View Post
Now that is a great idea. Might have to let the rugrat test it out though.
Better yet, let the whitebuffalo try it out for a few laps first, you know, give credit where credit is due, it'll be even funnier on YouTube that way!
09-14-2007 11:48 AM
noise
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Originally Posted by whitebuffalo View Post
take the internals out. turn welder chassis into scooter. use internals to power electric fence. build electric fence around a track to race ur scooter/welder on. when u lose control.....it will be funny. for me. so please videotape as well
Now that is a great idea. Might have to let the rugrat test it out though.
09-14-2007 11:41 AM
whitebuffalo take the internals out. turn welder chassis into scooter. use internals to power electric fence. build electric fence around a track to race ur scooter/welder on. when u lose control.....it will be funny. for me. so please videotape as well
09-13-2007 11:05 PM
noise
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Originally Posted by amy View Post
All the metal in it would rust and rust is bad for plants.
Good point
09-13-2007 11:02 PM
amy All the metal in it would rust and rust is bad for plants.
09-13-2007 10:59 PM
noise You guys are awsome! Keep the ideas poring in. Really suprised nobodys suggested using it for a flower planter.
09-13-2007 04:21 PM
tiny terror Noise, buddy, I have 220 in several places in my shop. Send it out here and you can live vicariously through my horrible lack of welding skillz.
09-13-2007 04:10 PM
Scotty355 Give it to me to hold onto for a couple of years
09-13-2007 01:27 PM
MouthfulOfGrass Where is your breaker box ?

At my old house, the breaker box was in back of the house. we just ran a stub right on the bottom of the box for 220 and plugged in there.

Otherwise, even though you're gonna have a new garage it wouldn' t hurt to run a 220 line out to your current garage, permanent. Once it's in, it'll always come in handy at some time.
09-13-2007 01:04 PM
whiteyj
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Originally Posted by steveshra View Post
Ok, so your looking for creative thinkers to come up with a use for your welder... here are some "creative" thoughts:

1. Put it in the living room and throw a table cloth over it: instant end table
2. Get a really big desk and set welder on top of desk: paper weight
3. Remove insides and put front panel on hinges: storage cabinet
4. Hook up in laundry room, throw away drier and dry clothes with welder... very carefully
5. Re-do the electrical on your Jeep to run 220v outlet. Mount welder in the back of your jeep: ultimate offroad repair tool

Hope this helps
Now there's out there thinking!
09-13-2007 11:00 AM
steveshra
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Originally Posted by noise View Post
Any ideas to get some use out of the welder?
Ok, so your looking for creative thinkers to come up with a use for your welder... here are some "creative" thoughts:

1. Put it in the living room and throw a table cloth over it: instant end table
2. Get a really big desk and set welder on top of desk: paper weight
3. Remove insides and put front panel on hinges: storage cabinet
4. Hook up in laundry room, throw away drier and dry clothes with welder... very carefully
5. Re-do the electrical on your Jeep to run 220v outlet. Mount welder in the back of your jeep: ultimate offroad repair tool

Hope this helps
09-13-2007 10:56 AM
skeeter Rent a generator.
09-13-2007 10:53 AM
kg4kpg On my same question, can I put a 220 outlet directly oppisit the one in the house for the dryer? Wired to the dryer outlet?
09-13-2007 10:48 AM
noise
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Originally Posted by Scotty355 View Post
Go ahead and run the wires to the garage,then when you build the new garage just move the wiring temporarily.
Garage on second lot will take a lot more wire. Very unethical to splice direct berial wire.
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