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02-24-2012 10:32 PM
MME Stick is not hard to learn. I would suggests to get a auto darkening helmet, since you can see when your try to strike an arc. If i could afford it I would get a inverter with all three in one welder so i could mig, stick, and tig weld with it.
02-24-2012 10:56 AM
welder90 the hobart 140 handler is a great welding comes with everything that u would need to get started besides mask gloves. looking at about $499.99 at tractor supply.
10-12-2007 10:44 AM
mrbigjeep nah, i wanted to learn the hard one first!
10-12-2007 05:55 AM
rketr (or use a MIG from the beginning )
10-11-2007 11:16 PM
Levinoss Easy way to fix it is to unclip it and remove the trode

No fuss

~Lev
10-11-2007 11:09 PM
mrbigjeep ha! its a pain...you have to jiggle it to get it loose and it pulls the metal out of place (if its not tacked yet) and it knocks the metal out of the clamp
10-11-2007 10:51 PM
Levinoss Lol gotta love getting it stuck to what your working on.

~Lev
10-11-2007 10:42 PM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by rketr View Post
If its the one I'm thinking of, its not really a helmet but more of a shield that you hold in front of you. Not very fun to operate with, but works fine for spectators...(I let my wife use one so she can watch when she is so inclined)
not very fun at all...it would be nice if i had to hands to steady the rod...make a better weld...

funny you should say that...my sister said she should get a mask so she can look...i will give her my shield and get a real helmet...she kept havin to turn around...2 seconds later "you can look" cause i welded the electrode to the metal
10-11-2007 09:23 PM
rketr If its the one I'm thinking of, its not really a helmet but more of a shield that you hold in front of you. Not very fun to operate with, but works fine for spectators...(I let my wife use one so she can watch when she is so inclined)
10-11-2007 06:28 PM
debruins hmmm never heard of a helmet u have to hold, but i was talking about the stadnard run off the mill welding mask/helmet
10-11-2007 04:38 PM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by debruins View Post
just fyi, you shouldn't have to pull it down wiht your hand, it should be able to go down with the flick of your head
which one are you talking about...not mine because i have to hold mine by a handle.

definitely will invest in an auto darkener

4.0sahara, i got one by the brand name of "clarke"...it was $150 for the welder, $4 for gloves, and $4 for the electrodes. $167.02 was total price i think
10-11-2007 04:21 PM
rketr
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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep View Post
so the autodarkening helmet will be clear enough for me to have it already down while striking the arc??

i have the handheld kind and i can't put it in front of my face till i strike the arc because its too dark to see out off...it would be nice to be able to have the helmet already on when striking the arc...then i wouldn't have to pull it down and i could strike it with it already on
Yes. It'll be just a little darker than a pair of sunglasses. Once it notices the brightness increase from the arc, it auto darkens within like 1/1000ths of a second (or something like that ). Some even have sensitivity settings and for how fast you want it to darken, how long before darkening, and how dark you want to make it. Well worth the extra $...
10-11-2007 03:12 PM
4.0l sahara
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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep View Post
mine uses no trigger...(just the trigger that acts as a clamp to hold the electrode)

so the autodarkening helmet will be clear enough for me to have it already down while striking the arc??

i have the handheld kind and i can't put it in front of my face till i strike the arc because its too dark to see out off...it would be nice to be able to have the helmet already on when striking the arc...then i wouldn't have to pull it down and i could strike it with it already on
what brank welder did you get and what was the coast?
10-11-2007 02:38 PM
debruins just fyi, you shouldn't have to pull it down wiht your hand, it should be able to go down with the flick of your head
10-11-2007 02:01 PM
myanarchy auto dark ones only about $50 at Harbor Freight, and yes you can see out of it until striking the arc.
10-11-2007 01:11 PM
mrbigjeep mine uses no trigger...(just the trigger that acts as a clamp to hold the electrode)

so the autodarkening helmet will be clear enough for me to have it already down while striking the arc??

i have the handheld kind and i can't put it in front of my face till i strike the arc because its too dark to see out off...it would be nice to be able to have the helmet already on when striking the arc...then i wouldn't have to pull it down and i could strike it with it already on
10-10-2007 11:17 PM
rketr
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Originally Posted by skeeter View Post
but, you didn't get a mig...
The auto helmets are great, I got mine at harbor freight a couple years ago and it still works great.
*2 there! Originally bought the non-auto darkening (to save some coin) but after trying it once and hating it, went back and bought a decent one (not cheap, but it is awesome! )

Is well worth it in my book.
10-10-2007 09:31 PM
skeeter but, you didn't get a mig...
The auto helmets are great, I got mine at harbor freight a couple years ago and it still works great.
10-10-2007 07:31 PM
debruins that only happens if u have ur hand on the trigger while ur doing it (at least for mig!)
10-10-2007 05:52 PM
myanarchy The auto-darkning helmets from harbor freight aren't bad, I've never been flashed by one. Only complaint is the small veiwing window. First time you are crawling into a tight place to lay a weld and brush the rod up against something and get blinded for a few minutes you'll love the auto helmets
10-10-2007 04:09 PM
Levinoss Preference and circumstance in a shop your able to work freely and have room to weld.

Not everyone welds in a nice shop -.-

In industrial welding, how you weld is under scrutiny, spew out a arch in a wrong place and it could be your job. So like I said

Preference and circumstance

~Lev
10-10-2007 03:58 PM
debruins i dont trust it to turn up i only will use the flip donw kind, well its alos the only kind i can afford, but for refrence, they dont let anyone use that kind at my dads shop b/c its a liability, basicly if the helmet malfunctions they can sue the company, if they forget to put ther helmet down, sucks for them, buutttt still if there was no liability in it not working they owuld let the guys use them!

i dont wanna be the perosn who the one inva million dont work!
10-10-2007 03:38 PM
Levinoss
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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep View Post
...ya thats what i read in da manual...

gonna test it out tomorow...seems like its tedious...can't go to fast or slow...can't be too close or far away and the amperature has to be right...

got gloves for $4

just gotta pick up a good helmet...the one that came with it is the kind you have to hold
Yea, the new auto darkening helmet's are great but pricy. You will wish you got one tho after you get flash burn on your eyes because you were lil too slow on flippin the helmet down.

After getting used to the auto helmets I used a flip style and forgot to flip the thing down! OUCH

~Lev
10-10-2007 03:28 PM
mrbigjeep ...ya thats what i read in da manual...

gonna test it out tomorow...seems like its tedious...can't go to fast or slow...can't be too close or far away and the amperature has to be right...

got gloves for $4

just gotta pick up a good helmet...the one that came with it is the kind you have to hold
10-10-2007 09:14 AM
Levinoss
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brush/chipping hammer
Tools of the trade, use the brush to clean up the area of rust or any other contaminant and the hammer to chip away slag.

~Lev
10-10-2007 09:02 AM
mrbigjeep bought a welder, rods, gloves. came with mask and brush/chipping hammer (have no idea why )

full size spare also comes in today
10-09-2007 10:47 PM
hemmer yep definitely go with the welder. i started in a freshmen high school class for basic welding, then went on to auto body and auto body 2--im now a senior. and anybody can weld 1/4" steel and make it look good. its the 16-18 ga. that can be tricky. but back on track welding is easily one of the most fun things ive learned and its a great skill to know.
imo best way to learn is pushing beads on a oxy acetalyne and then throw in some filler rod later on.

but for your first id get a mig just cause of the versatility and ease of use. but arc's are also super fun use.
10-09-2007 05:47 PM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by myanarchy View Post
Or get a ready welder and some batteries, I know a few guys who use it as their only welder
I've heard and seen some friend alternators and some fires that were caused by those. Probably would need to serious upgrade to install wouldn't you?

(And I will preface my part in this conversation as stating my welding skills still leave a lot to be desired. I can stick two pieces of metal together, but I won't trust my life on it yet. )
10-09-2007 05:43 PM
myanarchy
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
Now this is a skill to have. Came in direct contact with trail welding a few weeks back when Joe and I ripped the front trac bar mount off the JK's front axle. 3 batteries 3 sets of cables and a few of us burning the shit out of ourselves while trying to help Joe and we drove that thing down the mountain home at 65 mph.
Or get a ready welder and some batteries, I know a few guys who use it as their only welder
10-09-2007 05:39 PM
rketr
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
Now this is a skill to have. Came in direct contact with trail welding a few weeks back when Joe and I ripped the front trac bar mount off the JK's front axle. 3 batteries 3 sets of cables and a few of us burning the shit out of ourselves while trying to help Joe and we drove that thing down the mountain home at 65 mph.
Now that is what I'm talkin about!
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