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05-13-2012 08:44 PM
1jeeplvr I feel your pain.I did a frame swap on my TJ a while back.I paid 500.00 for my near perfect frame

Heres how bad mine was


Heres during the process
05-13-2012 08:25 PM
Four Low For a recall on frames to happen, complaints have to be made to NHTSA in sufficient numbers to get their attention, Those repair photos would be great! However, when Chrysler got taken over by Fiat,did that mean liabilities prior to that date were non-enforcible? How did Toyota get forced to have a recall on frames? The rust/rot on TJ frames is a safety issue for sure.
05-09-2012 10:28 AM
dr_donahue
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Originally Posted by super jeep101 View Post
Hey buddy funny you posted this the same thing just happened to my jeep a few days back same year 2000 tj 4.0 sport pretty much all standard but my tranny finally went and my dad went to go check it out. Well on his search to check the tranny he comes to me and says look for a new car your frame on the jeep is rotting out. Right were the body pan holds up the transmission on both driver and passenger side. Long story short instead of selling i got a new frame for $400 well a used frame with no rust at all. So what im doing is just swapping frames adding lift while im at it but it seems to be very common the reason is the frames have holes were water gets in and rots them from the inside so you dont see it. They make plugs you can plug the frame up and you will be golden.

Dont sell your jeep though for what little money you can get not worth it jeeps are big legos hope this helps =) keep on jeepin!!!

Her is a pic of my jeep and the new frame
I hope this worked out for ya Super Jeep! It's finally spring and I saved up some cash, so now considering my options for a rebuilt frame. I hear ya on being in the same boat, I will NEVER sell my jeep, even if it takes replacing the entire frame lol. I plan on doing an overhaul to my Jeep this summer, the cat converter needs replacing, as well as my tires and I'm in dire need of a tune-up, so thinking this summer of doing a frame replacement, changing the cat converter and muffler, and getting some 31s for tires with a lift, and tuning her up. I'm uber excited to get started, no better way of blowing my cash

Also has anyone got an update on the class action frame recall?
03-28-2012 01:02 AM
Richlw3 East coast is hungry for some Tj frame! Haha I did a little patch work to buy some miles until I get a new frame.
01-21-2012 06:22 AM
dr_destructo Drove home day and notice the left side of the tcase was hanging down. Bolts pulled thru the metal. Had to use the AutoRust tech replacement rails for Tcase and rear control arm mounts. Mines a 2001. Was junk. Repair works well. No problems since we did it over the summer.
01-21-2012 04:59 AM
dale 3 These frames love to trap dirt and road salt.But they rinse out easily to.My tj goes on the beach no surf gets rinsed out every time.Park on a decline start from front rinse back.Inner is more important.Ya can't just paint the outside and think your all set.Another trouble area is front of leaf spring mount at the rear.Stick your finger in feel bottom of frame guaranteed ya got build up.If you leave it it acts like wet carpet on a floor pan.Now add road salt.
01-20-2012 11:22 PM
super jeep101 Hey buddy funny you posted this the same thing just happened to my jeep a few days back same year 2000 tj 4.0 sport pretty much all standard but my tranny finally went and my dad went to go check it out. Well on his search to check the tranny he comes to me and says look for a new car your frame on the jeep is rotting out. Right were the body pan holds up the transmission on both driver and passenger side. Long story short instead of selling i got a new frame for $400 well a used frame with no rust at all. So what im doing is just swapping frames adding lift while im at it but it seems to be very common the reason is the frames have holes were water gets in and rots them from the inside so you dont see it. They make plugs you can plug the frame up and you will be golden.

Dont sell your jeep though for what little money you can get not worth it jeeps are big legos hope this helps =) keep on jeepin!!!

Her is a pic of my jeep and the new frame
01-20-2012 10:43 PM
pickncrew subscribed... owner of '02 with a New England rusty frame will attack it this spring & drop the skids
01-20-2012 05:19 PM
sahara13 I bought a 98 with significant rust on the frame, it was a Chicago car most its life, I had it checked out by a shop that has been doing jeep restos and such for 30 years. They said the jeep frames are just solid and visible rust doesn't mean jack. If you tap it with a hammer and it caves in then you've got to have it fixed. The guy said 99% of the time even heavy surface rust can just be blasted off and resealed. I know how you feel, I've beaten myself up over it for months, now i'm at peace with it and know its fixable.
01-20-2012 12:50 PM
jasonduke5 Check this website out. http://www.autorust.com/ i am getting ready to fix a bad spot on my frame mine is a 2002 with 90000 on it. Your lucj you live up by this place so you wouldnt have to pay for shipping or you can have them do it
01-20-2012 11:39 AM
dr_donahue
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Originally Posted by slider View Post
This seems to be a major problem with the TJ. A normally used vehicle frame should not rot in 10 years or less.I was watching Motorweek recently and Jeep is replacing control arm mounts for rot at no charge.Years ago a friend of mine had a mid 70's Mercedes convertible, cars were falling apart due to rust they fixed them for free almost 20 years later.Mabey we need a lawyer to look into this for us.I think we only need 3 people but the more the merrier.I love my 2000 TJ with alittle over 100k and the same rotted frame issue after clutch repair.Lets do something!!!
Sorry I've been MIA on this thread, but I decided to ride this winter out before I consider having pieces of my frame cut and replaced. Lack of funds mainly. But any update on this class action thing? I would be totally in for that! haha
11-09-2011 11:48 AM
Sahara509 Found a new frame for 300$. Thinking about swapping this spring. Not sure of its worth it.
11-09-2011 01:16 AM
Sahara509
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Originally Posted by slider
This seems to be a major problem with the TJ. A normally used vehicle frame should not rot in 10 years or less.I was watching Motorweek recently and Jeep is replacing control arm mounts for rot at no charge.Years ago a friend of mine had a mid 70's Mercedes convertible, cars were falling apart due to rust they fixed them for free almost 20 years later.Mabey we need a lawyer to look into this for us.I think we only need 3 people but the more the merrier.I love my 2000 TJ with alittle over 100k and the same rotted frame issue after clutch repair.Lets do something!!!
Im in!
11-08-2011 05:55 PM
NoWayOut_TJ
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Originally Posted by slider
This seems to be a major problem with the TJ. A normally used vehicle frame should not rot in 10 years or less.I was watching Motorweek recently and Jeep is replacing control arm mounts for rot at no charge.Years ago a friend of mine had a mid 70's Mercedes convertible, cars were falling apart due to rust they fixed them for free almost 20 years later.Mabey we need a lawyer to look into this for us.I think we only need 3 people but the more the merrier.I love my 2000 TJ with alittle over 100k and the same rotted frame issue after clutch repair.Lets do something!!!
I like the way you think. Toyota made good on the frames of the old Tacoma's. Either they were bought back or they installed new frames underneath, depending on the year of course. How come JEEP can't do that!!
11-08-2011 01:28 PM
slider
Class action

This seems to be a major problem with the TJ. A normally used vehicle frame should not rot in 10 years or less.I was watching Motorweek recently and Jeep is replacing control arm mounts for rot at no charge.Years ago a friend of mine had a mid 70's Mercedes convertible, cars were falling apart due to rust they fixed them for free almost 20 years later.Mabey we need a lawyer to look into this for us.I think we only need 3 people but the more the merrier.I love my 2000 TJ with alittle over 100k and the same rotted frame issue after clutch repair.Lets do something!!!
11-08-2011 01:04 PM
IamJayson
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Originally Posted by LucaBrasi View Post
I think this is them. I never had to call them because I didn't need to. I read about them somewhere else on this forum (I think they ship frame sections or something) and I noticed they were in New England:

Auto Rust Technicians - since 1977
Does anyone know of a similar place closer to the midwest?
11-08-2011 09:57 AM
Melissas6570 This is a problem with jeeps and salt. When you coat the underside, it helps, but the frame rots from the inside. There are some threads that talk about how to coat the inside of the frame which is the main problem.
11-07-2011 08:28 PM
Tom125 I didnt do any research on repair plates or panels. I figured if it was bad there then there would be other problem areas also. We got lucky and found a very nice frame about an hour from us. $500 plus it came with the budget boost blocks too. Just this weekend both of our jeeps were oil sprayed to get ready for the salt season. My wife did the oil spraying while I was out splitting firewood. She loves working on our Jeeps!
11-07-2011 12:40 PM
44Blues
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Originally Posted by LucaBrasi View Post
I think this is them. I never had to call them because I didn't need to. I read about them somewhere else on this forum (I think they ship frame sections or something) and I noticed they were in New England:

Auto Rust Technicians - since 1977
These guys repaired the frame on my FJ landcruiser and it came out very nicely...they also did a friends 67 mustang and it too was well done.
11-06-2011 09:40 PM
NoWayOut_TJ
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Originally Posted by pastorscott View Post
Tom
you hit the nail on the head for me - just picked up a 97 TJ with that same spot by rear control arm, There is a factory hole that has rotted out bigger.
do they have a kit to repair that or should I just weld some plates on it ?
Dont know how I missed it until I got it home and really started looking around it. Hope its fixable
I have the exact same spot rotting out, seems to be the most common spot. I decided mine was not too terrible so I used the Currie rear upper control arm bracket braces:
Currie Enterprises CJ Axle Parts

AutoRust does make a repair piece:
Rear Trailing Arm Mounts Frame Repair - Left Side (ART-124-L) [ART-124-L] - $179.95 : Safe-T-Cap Frame Repair Kits by Auto Rust Technicians, we make it easy to make it safe

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Originally Posted by SportsGal501 View Post
East Coast Jeepers

After snowstorms,especially if you are driving right after they salt the roads.

Put aside money just for car washes...I think those last couple of snow storms of 2010-2011.I spent close to $100+ for car washes and not including the self service wash.The salt has no mercy....NONE!
Great advice! Although up here in Maine they use liquid calcium on the roads as well and its the worst stuff ever. Hard to keep the rust under control.
11-06-2011 04:51 PM
Sahara509
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Originally Posted by Northwest4x4
I am noticing a trend on the east coast, look how many of you are from the north east.... Maybe you guys have some weird atlantic salt water in the air stream???

None of my 4 jeeps i've owned have had rust issues.
I live in washington state. Maybe my jeep came from the east coast.
11-06-2011 03:23 PM
SportsGal501
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Originally Posted by Northwest4x4 View Post
I am noticing a trend on the east coast, look how many of you are from the north east.... Maybe you guys have some weird atlantic salt water in the air stream???

None of my 4 jeeps i've owned have had rust issues.
East Coast Jeepers

After snowstorms,especially if you are driving right after they salt the roads.

Put aside money just for car washes...I think those last couple of snow storms of 2010-2011.I spent close to $100+ for car washes and not including the self service wash.The salt has no mercy....NONE!
11-06-2011 02:06 PM
Northwest4x4 I am noticing a trend on the east coast, look how many of you are from the north east.... Maybe you guys have some weird atlantic salt water in the air stream???

None of my 4 jeeps i've owned have had rust issues.
11-06-2011 01:38 PM
Sahara509 I also have the same rust issue near the rear control arm. Thinking about welding some plate on and coating inside the frame with eastwood internal frame coating, and hope for the best.
11-06-2011 12:52 PM
pastorscott
Same rot spot

Tom
you hit the nail on the head for me - just picked up a 97 TJ with that same spot by rear control arm, There is a factory hole that has rotted out bigger.
do they have a kit to repair that or should I just weld some plates on it ?
Dont know how I missed it until I got it home and really started looking around it. Hope its fixable

thanks
P. Scott
11-05-2011 08:56 PM
Tom125 WE, my wife and I just replaced the frame on her 97 wrangler sport. It was rotted real bad on the inside by the rear control arms, and cracked by the round hole just in front of the rear tire. Our project pretty well snowball into a complete rebuild of everything but the motor trans and transfer case. Everything else is new or rebuilt. We had our new frame and new body tub sand blasted and zinc coated (metalizing process) before por 15 and then we top coated the whole body with Raptor bed liner. This thing should be around long after im gone. Atleast the body and frame. It was a project but we have great satisfaction of knowing it was all done right, and we have a better understanding of how all things TJ work. Buy a service manual before you start. And if you have computer access in you garage that would be a bonus too. Keep this forum in your favorites. All answers can be found here.
11-05-2011 09:47 AM
WaterDR Well that seals the deal! Gonna get mine under coated. Have 130k miles of MN winters on it and the rust is minimal. Not sure why some experiences vary so much.
11-05-2011 08:52 AM
sovereign1
1 For sale

There is 1 for sale on the site. $750

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f14/jee...ee-120705.html
10-18-2011 12:51 PM
NoWayOut_TJ
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Originally Posted by LucaBrasi View Post
I think this is them. I never had to call them because I didn't need to. I read about them somewhere else on this forum (I think they ship frame sections or something) and I noticed they were in New England:

Auto Rust Technicians - since 1977
Wow never seen these before, being from the northeast this stuff might come in handy. My left rear upper control arm mount is rotted out and I was going to get the Currie bracket kit to beef it up a little but this is way better.
10-18-2011 10:43 AM
sevenservices they sell kits to repair bad spots in the frame as well, depending on where the trouble is. The front part leading out the bumper is usually the first to go... you can get weld in kits to replace the bad sections. First and foremost, check it for yourself to determine what is rotted through -vs- what might just be rusty.
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