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12-02-2011 02:21 PM
gunslinger24 You can install a harness bar to your stock cage. The weakest part of the stock cage is that there is no A pillar bar. Install A Pillar bars along with some horizontal bars and you will be fine.

If you are doing some hard core rock crawling then yes, you will want a complete cage installed. If you are a weekend warrior, then an upgraded stock cage will keep you safe.
12-02-2011 01:18 AM
1SAS 95YamJam,

That was an excellent explanation!! Thank you. I have often wondered why people do it "half @ssed" (to use banks316 expression) and you nailed it. Either do it right or keep it stock. In-between will get you killed. It really is like "fashion" isn't it? You see something that you like and you just have to have it... but a moment's thought, and you would have spent your money elsewhere.

Take care,
11-29-2011 10:11 AM
banks316 I agree with 95yamjam, doing it requires money and time. Doing it half @ss or cheap will get some on hurt. Stick with the stock style seat belt and you will be good. As for the seat if like them get them. My stock seats were tossed out i replaced them with the smittybuilt ones and they fit good.
11-29-2011 08:11 AM
95YamJam It's kinda like every other jeep thing. Way more $ the deeper you get.

Here are the scenarios. Yes you can put in 3 points and new seats. For the most point they will work but in certain instances they could hurt you or a passenger in the right kind of accident. On a roll over if the belts are attached at the floor you can actually compress your spine. It's not pretty. This also cause a false sense of security.

The bar behind the seat just below your shoulder level would be the correct way to mount the shoulder belts. BUT if that bar is attached to the cage and your seat rips from the body mounts then you'll get hurt too.

The full weld in cage(with frame tie-ins), with seats attached to the cage and the belts attached to it as well is the safest most correct way go. It's all the most expensive.

Honestly if your on a budget and you rig is a dd or light duty wheeler then good seats and properly functioning stock belts should do you fine..
11-29-2011 06:37 AM
4Jeepn Well If I was going to do all that, I would at the same time look to upgrade the stock cage to a complete weld in cage, with the bar behind the seats. Also I would go with mastercraft vs smitty as I like their stuff better.
11-29-2011 01:25 AM
just wanna be safe

how do i install a 3 point harness to my yj? do i have to add a bar behind the seats? im also getting replacing my seats with xrc racing style recliner seats by smittybilt. pleasssse help
here is the seat

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